Interested In Guinea Pigs, But Want To Confirm We'd Be Suitable.

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Elivercury

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Hi all, first post here.

Background: My fiance has wanted a dog for ages, but it wouldn't be fair to it as we live in a flat and both work so it wouldn't have a quality of life we would be comfortable with. We were at centreparks and ended up holding a few guinea pigs and she has falling in love with the idea of having them as on the surface they would be more flat friendly, would be ok without us during the day and also seem quite content to sit on your lap chewing and being cuddled, which is really what she wants out of a pet.

I've read through pretty much every stickied thread in the newcomers forum, so have a relatively good idea of what to expect, but still have assorted questions that haven't been answered to my full satisfaction. I've no intention of getting animals that we would not be able to adequately look after as it won't be good for any of us.

In terms of financial commitments, we should be able to comfortably afford afford two guinea pigs including initial outlay, vet bills and food/bedding costs (and no doubt regular toy purchases...). Likewise, I think we'd ideally opt for a pre-bonded adult male and female or pair of females - boars seem more tricky and probably not great for novices, likewise the bonding process seems like something better attempted by those more experienced. That said, there aren't any rescues within 60 miles of us except the SPCA and they have no GPs at the moment.

My real questions relate to the following: I've seen that GPs require a few hours of human interaction per day, which I am confident we could manage easily, however they would be left unattended for a good 8-9 hour stint during the day while we work. I'm assuming this isn't likely to be an issue as they'll have each other for company but could someone please confirm whether this is correct?

What sort of space do GPs need for exercise outside of their cage? We'd be keeping them in our flat as mentioned and while we can likely find space for a reasonably sized cage (plan to go for 150cmx60cm for two), if they are requiring further outside space this will likely be a dealbreaker. We do have access to a green outside, but I've serious reservations about using it due to it also being the area most people take their dogs to the toilet.

Additionally, I have been considering holidays and weekend visits to family and friends - I imagine for the majority of times we could get a friend to pop in and look after the GPs, but ultimately there will be times such a Christmas where this just isn't an option. So A) Would a new person taking care of the GPs occasionally distress them? B) How well to GPs travel and can they put up with reduced space for a temporary period or would a full sized cage still be required?

Would appreciate some answers to the above questions, as we would both like to have GPs, but as previously mentioned, we won't get them unless we can offer them a happy life.

Thanks in advance!

Elivercury.
 
Firstly, welcome to the forum, and it is brilliant you are so caring and taking the time to prepare for guineas.
As piggies are sociable animals they will be perfectly happy (providing you have a well bonded pair) being together, and they will also enjoy a bit of human interaction as you say. Usually my piggies only sit on our laps for about fifteen minutes, any longer than that they get a bit agitated.

I think it depends on the size of your cage, if it is nice and big then run time is unnecessary, if you have it average size them you may wish to purchase a foldable penned run. Although some piggies will not run about during run time anyway, they sometimes stay in their hideys! XD

Ideally it is better to keep your piggies in their home. You may be better off having someone else take care of them, as long car journeys, new scenery can stress them out.

Looking forward to seeing you around the forum! :D
 
:wel: to the forum. i'm glad to hear you're doing your research.

Chief guinea pig has given you good advice.

My guinea pigs regularly go into boarding. I have found someone who looks after them really well so it is the best option for me when I go away.
 
It's great that you've put so much research into it and considered everything so carefully.

The cage size sounds good. You have various options with regards the run-around time. What I do with mine (though I cannot manage it every day) is I have a run attached to the cage, for them to come and go. Even shop-bought cages can be modified so that one side-door can be left open for them to go in and out of their run. The run can be as simple as a sheet of plastic, covered by a fleece blanket, and walls made out of some kind of grid.

Leaving them alone shouldn't be a problem, for that amount of time per day. Just check they have all they need in the morning, refresh their water, check their hay and you're good to go. As you say they will have the attention in the evenings and will soon learn the household routine.

I do know people, very caring responsible people, who occasionally leave their pigs all day and overnight - they just put in a couple of extra water bottles, give the type of veggies that don't go off (like carrot) and extra hay. It's ok for odd occasions. However for longer periods it's also fine for reliable people to come in to feed and water the piggies, and even give them a snuggle or two if you are confident in their abilities. As for how the piggies react it's down to their personalities, some are more cautious of strangers than others.
The same can be said for travel, some cope well and some don't appreciate it. There are even therapy pigs who go around hospitals, childrens homes and the likes and travel around a lot without being phased, yet a lot will find a long journey stressful. Some people do take their pigs on holidays with them, without any issues at all. Also temporary small accommodation shouldn't bother well bonded pigs too much, though they wouldn't exactly love it either!
Another option is boarding, there are some good small-animal boarding facilities around but it may take some research.

The main thing though that strikes me as advice personal to your situation is that to remember that not all piggies love lap time and cuddles. Some piggies seem to have a 'do-not-touch-me' policy, but will happily bond with you in other ways. Also don't expect new pigs to warm up fast. Some do, right away in fact, and others can take ages. I actually had one, Cloud, who took biggest part of a year to feel comfortable and then all at once she really liked me, would sit on my slippers, jump in and out my lap, nose sniff my nose, but it took such a long time, and she was a no-touch pig.
My recommendation is to go to a rescue, as you intend anyhow, and get to know the piggies there, cuddle them, and decide from there. It's easy to mistake a pig who freezes in the lap as one who is calm and confident, but some are just frozen in fear. If you find one that spreads itself out, or licks your fingers, or has a little fidget and settles down, they you may well have your lap-piggy :)
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Hi and welcome!

It is great that you are thinking things through. Many members have got a fold-up run with some imperivable floor cover they use for playtime. I know several piggies where the run has been attached to the cage, so the piggies have got maximum range during the day but things can be tidied away for the night or when you have visitors. As long as guineas pigs have company of their own kind, they are perfectly fine to be left for the day.

During holidays, you can either look for boarding or a certified small animals pet sitter that comes round your flat to feed and clean your pigs. You you pay per visit.

I would still recommend to make it a day out for a trip to Hutches rescue in Alyth (the currently best rescue in Scotland by far) and take their advice as to what piggies might suit you best; you will find that a good standard piggy savvy rescue is really worth the extra distance, as you will get knowledgeable ongoing support and back-up and will have a smooth start into piggy ownership.
Hutches also offer boarding, which is something you might like to consider if you are away for a longer holiday as your piggies would be coming back into a place they know and are familiar with, as well as beng very piggy savvy.

If you look for carefully bonded adult boars past the teenage hormones from a good rescue, they are a completely different kettle of fur to mismatched shop baby pairs. Fall-outs and gender specific relationship problems are on a level par to sows by then. Many of our members swear by boars because they are often more cuddly, vocal and interactive as adults compared to sows.
 
Thanks for the replies, a lot to think about.

Just read that dog/fox pee is poisonous to GPs, so that definitely rules out any lawn time for any we might get as I doubt there is an inch of grass that hasn't been pee'd between the numerous dogs in the flats.

Feeling reassured regarding space requirements in the flat and leaving them alone during the day! Still not totally convinced about how we would cope with them around holidays - especially Christmas, as we tend to visit both our families staying 3-5 days at each. Getting a friend to look after them during this period is highly unlikely and unsure if any professional sitters would be working during this time? Likewise concerned that they would be very unhappy being moved around, having to live in more cramped conditions than usual for a spell and also having to be around any cats/dogs that our relatives may own.

Will keep boars in mind, as I suppose once the bonding is done they are likely to get along - although I understand they require a bit more space. Having one boar was preferable as I'm aware they're more likely to enjoy cuddling/handling, which is not something they are guaranteed to like.

We don't drive and Alyth is unfortunately a bit in the middle of nowhere - 20 miles from the nearest station I can find - so that probably isn't an option for us, although I would prefer to go the rescue route. In particular I think Critter has hit the nail on the head that we'd be best off meeting the GPs first hand and seeing how well they like being handled (as this is something my fiance is rather keen on) and whether they are suitable for us. Obviously a capable rescue would be able to do a lot for us in this regard, vs any other options.

What are peoples thoughts regarding the use of sites like gumtree? I'm aware that it definitely isn't the first choice of option, but when doing google searches for rescue GPs around Glasgow (and just generally searching for second hand cage/run options to buy), there seemed to be a fair few people giving theirs away for various reasons - usually kids being bored of them after 1-2 years. Are there any particular pitfalls to look out for? I'm aware that I would need to give them a full screening at the vet at the very least.

Does breed make much of a difference to GP temperament/behaviour or is it primarily just their appearance?

How bad/common are allergies to GPs? I've mild Asthma and I believe I may be slightly allergic to cats, although I've no issues with dogs. I also have hayfever which I believe is grass pollen related. Again, probably best settled by spending time with some we would potentially adopt.

Appreciating all the advice!
 
Well, in terms of allergy you won't know until you have them, unless you can borrow some for a while from a friend! :)
My husband is allergic to cats and dogs, but has been fine with every rodent we've ever had. Some people are allergic to hay, so that's something to watch, but you can get dust-free hay which does help a lot of the hay sufferers and is better for the piggies anyhow.

I wouldn't stress too much about holidays if you can find a good small-animal boarding near to you. I know driving is an issue and I have that problem, but you may find one that will collect for an extra small fee. It's worth investigating before ruling it out anyhow.

As for Gumtree, well I have had three of mine from PreLoved. I would say look around for a while and see if the same person posts pigs up regularly. I mean, some are openly breeding, and being honest about it, and to be fair I personally have nothing against the genuine and caring hobby breeders, but others try to palm their ex-stock of exhausted back-to-back bred pigs off as 'pets that they can no longer look after', and that's another kettle of fish! I have had no problems, and even made two friends on there of the people I got pigs from and they enjoy the regular updates I give them. Best bet may be those adverts that show the pigs in the cages and talk about how they have been kept, why they are being sold etc. Lack of detail always makes me suspicious :)
 
Hi and welcome, it's nice you are doing so much research before making a commitment. guinea pigs are such lovely animals! Regarding a run, I know there are several of us on here that use a child's ball pit (around £10) and it does the trick perfectly :-)
I do t know much about breed types etc but I have heard that abisinyans (might be spelt wrong) are cheeky naughty little piggies.
I have 4 boys, 2 are just so in love and inseparable and the other 2 are seperated due to fighting. Again 3 of them enjoy cuddles but 1 isn't so keen. I think it's just piggie personality.
I can't help regarding allergies I'm afraid. I hope you get all the information you need and are able to get some piggies soon :-)
Oh and regards to gumtree and the alike I'd say just be careful as you might not get quite what you are being told you are, which could lead to problems in the future.
 
I looked on preloved and there were none anywhere nearby (although I'll keep a look out!). Perhaps Guinea Pigs are extra popular in Glasgow?

I'd definitely only buy from people who appeared to have a good reason for giving them away and I felt were being picky about who they gave them to, rather than just getting rid of them. Likewise, if I can see them and maybe handle them for a lil while it'll give me a good idea of if I'm going to have any allergy issues.
 
Breeds: Many people say that Rexes and Agoutis make for placid people-friendly breeds. Swiss also. But Rexes have a tendency to be very laid back. Abbys I completely back up Galaxy and Nibbles there, they are cheeky, quirky, funny, independent. Some of them like their cuddles some of them hate their cuddles, they're a bit unpredictable that way. They are often not as needy towards their cage mates as other pigs.
I know a lady who has kept chocolate agouti Teddies, and every single one she's had has been cuddlier compared with other colours....
Different breeds have their own care requirements, some will need daily brushing for example, and Teddies can be prone to dry skin. Rexes need their nails trimming a bit more often and have thick nails.
Himis are mad-hatters, especially the black-point Himis (Himalayan)

BUT none of these are cut-and dried and absolute, as all have their own personalities, and some are not typical at all of what their reputation states! :)
 
May I ask how far the nearest rescue is? Is it ridiculously far? The reason I ask is that each has their own policy in terms of adoption procedure, and some like to do home-visits to be sure. Now no rescue wants to have their time wasted, but if they are not too far away then it may be worth just contacting them and telling them your situation, and asking how possible it would be for them to bring some over to you for you to view. Some rescues also have fosterers who are based a little distance away, and you never know, a fosterer may be close to you.
 
OK I'm sorry, the closest rescue as already stated by Wiebke is Alyth. I know you said it was in the middle of no-where but I didn't realise just how far it is. 60 miles!
Thing is I have used a pig courier a couple of times, the first time was a leap of faith and a long story, and the second time I was for a pig from the same lady and I was more sure of who I was dealing with and of her integrity, but the issue is that of meeting your piggies first, which you can't do if you go down that route.
It may be a case of waiting around a while for the right advert to come up......
 
Reading all the above posts everyone has given you great advice.

My only concern is that if you do choose to take on piggies from the likes of gumtree they could potentially have an illness, be pregnant and not be very well bonded. Good guinea savvy vets are very few and far between as it is through the country and bills can be expensive especially if you have a vet that does not know what they are doing.

If you could push the boat out to get to Hutches then it really will be worth it as then you know your piggies are correctly sexed, not pregnant or ill. Alternatively you can also contact www.northeastguineapigreascue.co.uk and see if Layla who runs it is able to help you and may be able to provide transport also as there are other adopters in Scotland too x
 
Good luck in your search for some guinea pigs.. we have only had ours since May and myself and the kids love them ! best thing i ever did....
 
Hi and welcome,

It sounds as if you are being very sensible about taking on new family members. It is a very important decision to make as they will become an important part of your life for hopefully many years to come.

I have read through your post and also the answers by some other members but I hope my advice may help also.

I have 4 boars and 4 sows.

I have adopted 1 pair of boars and 1 pair of sows from the Gumtree site. These were piggies that were purchased for young children who had lost interest (unfortunately a very common problem) and parents who could not manage working and looking after young children and pets.

Generally they will post a picture of them (make sure it is a real picture and not just uploaded from google images) so that you can see what they look like. You can see that there are a few adds that are definitely back yard breeders from how they are housed and how many ads they have so stay clear of them.

I then emailed and asked further questions before arranging to see them. I have used my own experience of people and my gut instinct to know when people are genuine and I have kept in touch with both lots of people and sent them up to date photos as they were just as concerned about who they were allowing to adopt the piggies as I was of taking them. Both lots have settled in brilliantly and are much loved members of our family so I have no regrets. All have been in good conditions with no illnesses. The main thing I would say is that they all needed their nails clipped as that seems to be something most people either do not think about or unsure how to do.

The SSPCA in Bothwell and Cardonald also have piggies that are looking for homes so you try them also. If you are inexperienced then they may be your best bet as they will have had them checked over by their vets so no little surprise pregnancies. They will also have the bonded pairs and be able to give you information on personalities etc.

With regards to a cavy savy vet I can highly recommend the vet we use which is Taylor Veterinary Practice who have practices in Cathkin (this is the one we use and it has its own hospital attached for all their practices to use) and East Kilbride and Clarkston. They are open 7 days a week and they currently look after for us alone 8 piggies, 3 rabbits, 1 puppy and 2 hamsters.

They have so far already neutered very successfully 1 boar and 1 male and 1 female rabbit and dealt with numerous other conditions piggie and other animal related. We use Laura Cawley who specialises in small animals including dentistry and has 3 rabbits and 4 piggies of her own. She is currently on maternity leave until February and meantime we are dealing with Nikki Whelan who is doing an amazing job looking after our piggies as well.

I do hope the above information may be of some help and if I can help with anything else please let me know.

I am based on the South side of Glasgow in Blantyre.
 
Hi - what great research you're doing! I really hope you feel you're able to get some piggies as it sounds like you'd be wonderful caring owners!
I've a few personal insights that may help with your decision making:

* I had VERY bad asthma as a child (hospitalised 3 times), but it got better as I got older and is generally now quite managable. I am however allergic to my piggies and it can sometimes set me off a bit but taking regular antihistamines and carefully managing my inhalers I'm never bothered or in any serious trouble. I'd never let it stop me keeping piggies either, I saw a new asthma nurse at my last check up and when I mentioned the piggy related affects I felt like clocking her one when she said "so theres no chance of not having the guinea pigs?" If you didn't experience a strong reaction when you were handling the pigs at centerparks you're probably going to be ok as far as the pigs themselves are concerned but as @Critter said it could be the hay thats more of an issue for you. I know a few people have often gone round pet shops sniffing and testing different brands of hay!

* Piggies do travel surprisingly well with the right conditions. Luckily my in-laws will live-in and pig sit for us when we go away but on occasions when the whole family travels to meet up we pop the pigs in a smaller 100cm cage that fits in the boot of our car, provide lots of cosey hideys and hay, lots of fresh watery veg like cucumber and their usual food and then we're off for a 3 hour journey and a 3/5 night stay. When we get to the destination we use sections from their outdoor run to cordon off an area around their travel cage and then open the cage up so they can move freely between the temporary run area and the cage. They are often quiet for the first hour or so whilst they're getting used to their surroundings but we set them up in a quiet room and close the door for a bit, after a while when we go back to check its business as usual and theyre happy as larry! I see you don't have a car but if relatives could help you out with transport or even keep a temporary cage set up at their house for when you do visit I think theres plenty you could work around if you wanted your pigs to travel with you.

Good luck!
 
Hi,

Sorry, just to add regarding allergies my eldest son has asthma and hay fever and we find it is actually the hay and woodchips that set him off rather than the piggies. So he is lucky enough to get out of the cleaning (which to be honest is not a problem for him lol).

If you did want to come and cuddle some piggies for a while to see how you get on I would be more than happy for you both to come and use ours you are more than welcome.
 
Thanks for the replies, a lot to think about.

Just read that dog/fox pee is poisonous to GPs, so that definitely rules out any lawn time for any we might get as I doubt there is an inch of grass that hasn't been pee'd between the numerous dogs in the flats.

Feeling reassured regarding space requirements in the flat and leaving them alone during the day! Still not totally convinced about how we would cope with them around holidays - especially Christmas, as we tend to visit both our families staying 3-5 days at each. Getting a friend to look after them during this period is highly unlikely and unsure if any professional sitters would be working during this time? Likewise concerned that they would be very unhappy being moved around, having to live in more cramped conditions than usual for a spell and also having to be around any cats/dogs that our relatives may own.

Will keep boars in mind, as I suppose once the bonding is done they are likely to get along - although I understand they require a bit more space. Having one boar was preferable as I'm aware they're more likely to enjoy cuddling/handling, which is not something they are guaranteed to like.

We don't drive and Alyth is unfortunately a bit in the middle of nowhere - 20 miles from the nearest station I can find - so that probably isn't an option for us, although I would prefer to go the rescue route. In particular I think Critter has hit the nail on the head that we'd be best off meeting the GPs first hand and seeing how well they like being handled (as this is something my fiance is rather keen on) and whether they are suitable for us. Obviously a capable rescue would be able to do a lot for us in this regard, vs any other options.

What are peoples thoughts regarding the use of sites like gumtree? I'm aware that it definitely isn't the first choice of option, but when doing google searches for rescue GPs around Glasgow (and just generally searching for second hand cage/run options to buy), there seemed to be a fair few people giving theirs away for various reasons - usually kids being bored of them after 1-2 years. Are there any particular pitfalls to look out for? I'm aware that I would need to give them a full screening at the vet at the very least.

Does breed make much of a difference to GP temperament/behaviour or is it primarily just their appearance?

How bad/common are allergies to GPs? I've mild Asthma and I believe I may be slightly allergic to cats, although I've no issues with dogs. I also have hayfever which I believe is grass pollen related. Again, probably best settled by spending time with some we would potentially adopt.

Appreciating all the advice!

Lack of safe lawn access is not a problem. if you wish to offer some grass, you can always grow some in seed trays.

Professional sitters work over the holidays. I had them in to come and feed my own guinea pigs once a day on very notice after a neighbour pulled out at the last moment last Christmas while we were away on a family visit to Switzerland. Fees are usually double for bank holidays, but especially if you book early, it should not be a problem. ;)

I have also regularly taken piggies of mine up to Wales for weekends/holidays with my mother-in-law. Piggies travel pretty well, especially if you do it fairly often. Here are tips for travelling: Travelling with guinea pigs
 
I can't really add to everything that's already been said but wanted to say welcome. I got 2 of my boys from Gumtree they were fine health wise but it was a gamble taking them on as they could have had health issues, but I was lucky they were fine. Good luck and hope all goes well.
 
Hi, I live in a one bedroom flat with no garden as well. To be honest, as long as there is food and clean water in the morning, Digger was fine. In fact, he sleeps most of the day (I noticed on Saturdays). I would recommend to go to RSPCA as they always have guinea pigs which needs home. in the evenings, he will snuggle up to me and have naps. Or he will sit on my lap and just chatter away.

Also, one thing you need to think about. Not sure what are your baby plans, but guinea pigs are forever and can live for a long time. Do think about that carefully.
 
Hi guys,

Wanted to give a really big thanks to all of you for replying, it has given us a lot to think about. We’ve decided to hold off on getting any GPs for the moment for a few reasons. The main ones are that we’re currently looking to move, due to be married soon and will potentially be having kids shortly after. We’ve also suddenly got two family members moving in with us for an unspecified period of time until they manage to get their own place to move into, making what was previously a relatively spacious flat into a rather cramped flat!

Given how unstable things are for us at the moment, I don’t think it would be fair for us to get some GPs who would have to potentially move with us, have limited space and have to deal with us being distracted by other things (and potentially need rehomed if we couldn’t manage both them and a baby).

It also doesn’t help that I was informed in no uncertain terms that GPs would never be welcome in my parent’s house so it would be sitter or miss out on family Christmas.

Really appreciate all of your help and will look into GPs again in the future once we’re a little more settled and can ensure we will give them a good life and have the time to make them happy.

Thanks,

Elivercury.
 
That's a shame, but very sensible. I hope everything goes smoothly for you and that your relatives get back on their feet soon.
Wishing you a happy wedding :)
Feel free to stop around, you don't have to currently have piggies to enjoy the forum, but if not, hope to see you back some time in the future when the time and circumstances are right for you xx
 
Dont apologies. It is heart warming that you think through carefully if you can give a guinea pig a good home. They are not one off but forever (until death). I am sure in future you can have one when you are ready. If only all would be owners do what you did!

And don't feel too bad. I myself have to delay getting another after Digger with me being pregnant. :)
 
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