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Ok my male boar is 3 years and i have a new piggy who is 4 months who is also a boar. Now like recommeneded i just put them together on the kitchen floor. My oldestest fur went right up and he looked like he went an inch higher. he was making loud alerting noises.

My baby piggy made low vibrating noise and walked low to the ground slowly. my baby one kept sniffing my big piggys bottom and so on so forth.

WHats happened.

Ive put them cage by cage and my oldest one kept trying to get out and kept stuffing his food down as quick as he could. And my baby ones fur went up and they sounded like they were comminucating with alot of low grunting.

I have put my big one back in my room and little one down staires but my big one is now trying to escape his cage and making loud noises.

HELP. does he like my new piggy or not??


also i have not bathed them as i only got my new pig a few days ago. he has been with other piggys before. i just really need help i seem to have upset my big pig by either taking him away from muy new one or letting him meet another
 
Aslong as they haven't fought balls of fury(you will know balls of fury if it happens) have a towel close by to throw, leave them to it.

Do you mean a "Brrrrrrr " with there backend wiggling? Thats there dominance dance, I would expect that along with nose off's, chattering (not intense chattering) though.

Might I add, it's easier said than done I know I experienced it first hand and it was the most stressful situation ever!
 
They both touched noses at first they grunted. they talked to each other. my older ones hair stood on end. And the baby cowered down. They are in seperate cages now and my oldest one seems to be stressed. They were vibrating. should i put them back together and watch them even though they are making alot of noise?

It also seemed that pepsi was trying to get thre his cage to see him.
 
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If you're going to put them back together you need to see it through. It's not fair to keep putting them together and separating. There is going to be some rumblestrutting, fur raised and probably some snapping- it's all part of them sorting out the pecking order- who's in charge. You only need to separate them if there's an all out fight. But then that will be it, they will not be friends.

It's scary but it really is best to let them sort things out between themselves. Be strong. :)
 
Yes, don't separate unless there is blood.

When I bonded my males I did make the mistake of separating but my boar lunged and the teeth chattering was intense and deafening followed by the baby shrieking but that was when they were in my males terrioty. (Rookie mistake) You have to see it out!

Make sure when you put them in the cage today it is fully cleaned and put no hides with one exit so no one can get caught.

I had to redo the introduction which was more successful second time round, but sadly it wasn't ment to be.

It is good the baby is backing down, as the older pig has to establish it's place as the dominate male, I'd more concerned if the baby didn't back down!
 
PLEASE follow our instructions and read the links we have been giving you! It's all in there and your boars haven't done anything bad but some initial posturing and staking their ground, which is acceptable behaviour. There haven't been any fights.
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38562
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=28949

If you are caving in at the first sign of "stress", you will never be able to go through with bonding. It might be better if you contacted a rescue near you and asked them whether they would be prepared to try and bond your boars for you against a donation.
http://www.guineapigrehome.org.uk/gp/centres.asp
 
So should i leave them side by side in cages. or let them in the kitchen floor and let them see it threw no matter how hard it is?

Just my baby is only 4 months and i got him a day ago a few people have said just put them together the sooner the better i am so confussed. i dont want either of my pigs getting hurt
 
PiggyPepsi said:
So should i leave them side by side in cages. or let them in the kitchen floor and let them see it threw no matter how hard it is?

Just my baby is only 4 months and i got him a day ago a few people have said just put them together the sooner the better i am so confussed. i dont want either of my pigs getting hurt
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I would ask a rescue if they would do it for you, You need to see it though the boars should not be in cages, you are most likely making this harder for the boars and yourself.

I understand it is difficult but unless there is blood do not separate they need to establish pecking order.

I know with my boys, I just went ahead but like I said I made the Rookie mistake of separating to early and had to go though the process again.

How big are the cages the boars will be living in?

I suggest you read Wiebkes links they tell you exactly what to do!
 
Pipins cage (baby) came with a cage big enough for 3 guinea's id say.

Pepsi'S is big enough for just one.

We are going to try again tomorrow bevause they have both just settled down.

Your right it is very scary and vvery stressful. I am just a little mother hen when it comes to my pigs. But we are going to try tomorrow afternoon. I want to read threw thoughly the information i have been given.

I wanted to try again now but i dont wanna stress them out too much
 
What did you have as distractions? How big was the space you allowed them? This is a picture of how I make a bonding pen, lots of distractions, good size, enclosed. Did you thoroughly clean out and re arrange furniture, getting rid of all stuff that will hold smells? It will be very confusing for them putting them together, then separating, then putting together. Do have a good read through your last thread, and hopefully all will be ok for you tomorrow.
First photo, not yet got all the food and veggies in.
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This is a piccy of two lads bonding in one of the pens:
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I got alot of grass and put it in the middle of the floor. And me and my mum sat around them the reading the first post above descrivbes what happened. I need to buy one of them pens. Where can i get one from?

What happens when ive bonded them and i need to put them in my room where pepsi has his scent on my carpet. I cant rearrange my furniture because my room is unable to allow it. They have alot of room to run around in there. SO after they have bonded in my kitchen can they stay in seperate cages in my room then can they be let out together ?
 
and can i also ask were * got the hamak from the pink spotty hamack?
 
If you check out the housing section, and look in the stickies, you will see all about it there. B & Q sell it, and probably other places too. It's quite cheap. Lots of info in the housing section. x
 
Hello again. I'm going to put my pigs together again this afternoon. But before hand i am going to wipe them down with the proper piggu wipes so they both have the same scent. Also, i am going to put down a plate of veggies although the little one won't take them because he is still getting used to things. I am going to let them know each other and hope there no fights,

I do however want to know pepsi my oldest pig has lived and wondered around my room for for the past 6 months. if i want to put my other pig in their tonight is it a good idea? also will i have to clean everything?
 
If you are bond them in the kitchen and it goes ok you must put them together afterwards otherwise it will have been a waste of time as you'll have to do the re-bonding all over again.
Does Pepsi have a cage in your room? You need to clean it thoroughly and any hideys/ bowls, etc (and re-arrange the cage if possible). I would give the carpet a good hoover but don't worry that you can't clean it. The main thing is to introduce them on neutral territory which you are doing in the kitchen and to make the cage smell as neutral as possible. They will quickly re-establish their scents.

Good luck. :)
 
Unfortuantly i came clear to me yesterday that i won't be putting my boys together. They ate together however, pepsi was just to much for pippin and they tried to fight. but we stopped them in time and noone was hurt.

I am not sad that they don't get along because at the end of the day it's nature and maybe its for the best. They will however recieve alot of love from me :)
 
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