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Hello, I'm new to this forum and I really need some advise!

Nugget, my male guinea pig, has been an only pet for almost a year now and I felt as though he needed some companionship so I re-homed 2 females, the females are sisters and have lived together since birth.
I have observed the quarantine period and Nugget has been neutered, and over the last 3-4 weeks I have been introducing them all on neutral ground, and apart from the occasional nudging, in a 'get off' kind of way, I was pretty convinced that they would get along fine.

My partner built them a cube cage today, 5ft x 2ft, it has 3 hides, 2 hay racks and 2 water bottles to minimise bullying etc but there does appear to be a problem!!

One of the females, Scruffy, appears completely unfazed by the new living arrangements or by Nugget, but Speedy the other female appears to have a problem with Nugget.
There is a lot of teeth chattering, hip swaying and fur standing on end going on, on both their parts, they have chased each other around and there has been what appeared to be a charge at each other but no injury.
Speedy appeared to 'have a go' at Nugget, with outcome being Speedy having a tuft of Nugget's fur in her mouth but again no injury, I have also noticed Nugget laying down on his side on a couple of occasions as if submitting to Speedy, but when she gets close they start all over again.

I'm not sure what to do, I don't want to separate them too soon if this is normal behaviour, sorting out who's the boss etc, but also I am worried about them hurting each other.

I'd really like to know what I should be doing at this point, shall I leave them to decide the dominancy or separate?
Should I be worried about Scruffy, the female who appears to be just accepting the whole thing?
Is this all normal deciding who's boss behaviour and can I really tell if they just don't like each other and cannot live together?
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How long have they been together now? Is it the more dominant sow that has the problem with the boar IF so she is probably just putting him in his place and he will learn that she is the boss as long as no blood is drawn it is best to ride it out.
 
How long have they been together now? Is it the more dominant sow that has the problem with the boar IF so she is probably just putting him in his place and he will learn that she is the boss as long as no blood is drawn it is best to ride it out.
 
Hi, thanks for replying, they have all been in the new cage now for about 4.5 hours, maybe slightly longer.

To be honest I thought the other sow, Scruffy, was the dominant female but maybe I was wrong.
Whenever Nugget gets near to Speedy, this starts, although I've noticed he seems to be steering clear of her if he can.
I have just been watching them and they were doing something strange across the veggies bowl, both up on the sides of the bowl with their front legs, swaying from side to side, with noses in the air, teeth chattering like mad, then Nugget got down, they then did the same thing again and this time Speedy got down.

No blood has been drawn and I really hope it doesn't, I'm getting worried about leaving them to it over-night to be honest, do you think they would have had a proper fight by now if they were going to?
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I would keep a close eye on them. Speedy i'd imagine was the boss sow which is why Scruffy's unfazed & has settled.

It could well be that because she was boss she sees Nugget as a threat & if he's a dominant character too he'll not want to back down to a sow.

However, not all sows appreciate a boar & vice versa. If no wounds are inflicted or they're allowed to exhibit normal behaviour & go where they choose, eat & drink then i would leave them but if one looks depressed or you see a weightloss then i'd think about separating.
 
What you are seeing is them both displaying dominant behaviour; this can be a pre- cursor for a full blown fight but it can just as easily diffuse.

A full on fight can happen at anytime & sometimes without warning, i'd leave them because if you separate too early you will have to re-introduce all over again :)
 
Hi, thanks for all your help, I rode it out over night and thankfully woke to a calm-ish scene!

It appears, although I could be wrong, that Nugget, the boar, has assumed top dog position, Speedy the sow that was giving him huge problems yesterday appears to have given in to him and they are no longer chattering their teeth at each other.
I have actually seen all 3 of them eating together today out of the same bowl, although there are two bowls, which has given me hope!

Nugget has been neutered but continues to mount both the sows, and he has, what looked like, mated with Speedy on a number of occasions today, although she is far from happy about it, she hasn't 'had a go' at him at all today.
And I am keeping my fingers well and truly crossed that the neutering worked!

Scruffy on the other hand, the other sow, appears to be quite settled, Nugget has tried a few times to mount her but she manages somehow to elude him, he is not so interested in her for some reason.

I just have one more question, will Nugget continue to pester the sows or will it all stop or at least slow down, as I can imagine it getting quite annoying for the ladies sooner or later?

Thanks:))
 
By the looks of it, the move to a new home coincided with with Speedy coming into season (but not ready to mate yet); at that stage, things are always a bit charged with high emotions, but they have been compounded with having to sort out the hierarchy in the new home. Hence your extreme behaviour.

Your other sow is nowhere near season, therefore no major interest between the parties right now. The first few seasons will be more noticeable, as it is a bonding occasion at the same time. After a few weeks, things will calm down considerably and you will only have the odd lively time whenever one of the girls happens to have a stronger season or Nugget a hormonal surge.

Rumbling is very much a daily boy thing; it is Nugget telling the girls how much he fancies them and part of reaffirming their bond.

http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38561
 
By the looks of it, the move to a new home coincided with with Speedy coming into season (but not ready to mate yet); at that stage, things are always a bit charged with high emotions, but they have been compounded with having to sort out the hierarchy in the new home. Hence your extreme behaviour.

Your other sow is nowhere near season, therefore no major interest between the parties right now. The first few seasons will be more noticeable, as it is a bonding occasion at the same time. After a few weeks, things will calm down considerably and you will only have the odd lively time whenever one of the girls happens to have a stronger season or Nugget a hormonal surge.

Rumbling is very much a daily boy thing; it is Nugget telling the girls how much he fancies them and part of reaffirming their bond.

http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38561

Thanks for that Wiebke - that also answers a question in my mind during supervised play time with my recently neutered boy and the girls x>>
 
Hi,

Thanks so much for replying I hadn't considered that one of the sows might be in season.

Both sows are quite a bit older than Nugget, I believe they are around 2 years old, so I imagine their seasons are well established.
Nugget is roughly about 8 months old, so I suppose he could be going through hormonal changes.

It is very interesting that you have said that Speedy may be in season as this might explain why Scruffy, the other sow, appears to be showing Speedy some interest too, I have noticed Scruffy mounting Speedy a couple of times.
Is that something that could happen?

I am sorry to keep asking so many questions, I really didn't realise how interesting guinea pigs are and how much meaning there is to their behaviour, they really are very interesting little piggies!:))
 
Humping between sows is either a sign of dominance during initial meetings or a part of being in season.

Btw. Dizzy was 3 1/2 years old when she chose ca. 12 months old Llewelyn as her new companion, and they had a very loving relationship. It certainly did Dizzy a world of good!
 
Hi,

I just wanted to say that after all the worry of the initial introductions and all the great advise everyone gave me, the 3 piggies are getting along wonderfully.
I feel very fortunate that things worked out well as I've read a few posts on here where things have not gone so well and piggies have had to be separated.

The 3 of them seem very happy together, Nugget, the boar, has calmed down loads and doesn't try to mate with the 2 sows all the time now, which is great for them.
Nugget and Speedy, who initially were at logger heads, have the closest relationship, Nugget rubs his face on hers, like he's licking her and she closes her eyes like she's really enjoying the affection, it's absolutely lovely to watch.

Nugget and Scruffy appear to respect each other, that maybe as far as it goes, there is no affection between these 2 and Nugget is yet to have 'his way' with her as he has with Speedy.... best add Nugget is neutered.
He does try but Scruffy just moves out of his way, it's like she saying 'I'm washing my hair tonight'.

In fact I think the most surprising of all is the relationship between Speedy and Scruffy, they are sisters and have been together since birth, they now spend less time together, it's as though they seem happier now that they can get away from each other sometimes, maybe a boarfriend was just what the doctor ordered!

Thanks again for all the advise.:))
 
Glad it is working out for you i have a trio the same as yours 2 sows and a boar and my boar is adored by one sow and tolerated by the other. He never stops rumbling though and he popcorns all the time and he is a much happier pig by having sows as cagemates
 
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