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Help my boys have had a bloody fight!!

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muchiemul

muchiemul

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I have let my two boys out this morning in their run and they were making tutting noises then i popped in the kitchen and when i came out there was fur and blood everywhere!:( both piggys have really bad open wounds to their backs!
I have now put them in separate runs but they live together in a hutch, what do I do now? will they ever be able to go back together?
any help greatly appreciated :(
p.s they are rescue piggys and have had they odd fight before but nothing this bad:(
 
Oh no!

I think the first thing is to get them to the vet and check to make sure theres no other wounds and to have them cleaned.

Not as experienced as other peeps on here, but you may have to separate them now.....someone will advise I'm sure. Doesnt sound like a happy bonding anymore though :(
 
Hi, I'm sorry to say this but once blood has been drawn its rare that they can get on. This happened to me a while ago and i had to seperate my boars. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and found Jem 10 mins later with blood drippping from his throat. I dread to think what would have happened had i not been home :... The cages are side by side and they still chatter and appear to hate eachother.
I'm sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear, it's very difficult. I cried all day and eventually we got a baby for Jem as he was lonely. And Jasper appears happy on his own (he didnt like 2 boars we tried him with).
Good luck x>>
 
I'd take them both to the vets just to get there open wounds looked at and any meds given. You will need to split them for the time being, can you put one in the hutch and the other in the run in your house? Or a hospital cage?

How old are your boys?Do you have any girl pigs? Or have you moved house recently? All these things can start dominance issues and stress.

Hope you're okay and the boys too,

Laura xx

P.s if you don't have enough pennies for the vets at the moment you can try the PDSA or ask your local vets if they have a payment scheme whereby you pay back with interest over a certain amount of time.:)
 
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I've just had a flick through your previous posts (hope you don't mind) your boys are ten months old so they'll be going through their hormonal stage where dominance is tested, and they've recently been to a holiday home too....does your friend who cared for them whilst you were away have female pigs or kept them in a smaller cage or hutch? Boars need a lot of space. The move may of caused some stress too.

Unfortantly you can't change this now and once boars have drawn blood you can rarely make it work in the future. But you can have them living side by side in separate hutches/ cages, that way they can still talk to one another.

Hope the trip to the vets go well, big kisseys to your boys!

Laura xx
 
I can only echo what the others have said, vets first then separate caging. There may be a possibilty of re-introduction once the boys hormones have settled, though a good long time out is needed before you consider this.

Suzy x
 
I'm sorry to hear this - hope they get on ok at the vets and there is no serious damage :-(
 
This is what has happened to us this week,but without such devastating results. Ours are the same age as yours. They are currently in separate cages but one is an outdoor cage. They do chat to each other and we have them out next to each other but they start threatening each other and the smaller one does his hip swaying again and they both tut tut and click,hair goes up and if Pippin goes near Merry then Merry will snap at him. We are going to bath them later and see if that helps but think it is a losing battle. The bigger one,Merry,seems unhappy although Pippin was the instigator each time. Pippin goes to the bars to talk to Merry. We are really upset and planning our next move. Hope your boys are ok,it is so upsetting isn't it.
 
AudioHeart said:
I'd take them both to the vets just to get there open wounds looked at and any meds given. You will need to split them for the time being, can you put one in the hutch and the other in the run in your house? Or a hospital cage?

How old are your boys?Do you have any girl pigs? Or have you moved house recently? All these things can start dominance issues and stress.

Hope you're okay and the boys too,

Laura xx

P.s if you don't have enough pennies for the vets at the moment you can try the PDSA or ask your local vets if they have a payment scheme whereby you pay back with interest over a certain amount of time.:)
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Hi, Thankyou,
The only change was a recent holiday at a friends house and most recently in their new hutch, also they now have a bigger run , I also now have another rabbit ( to bond with my male) in the garden, it is a female but spayed. they are about 13 months old now.
I have separated them in to separate hutches :(
 
I have been to the vets she has stapled their wounds and given them anti biotics. They are both very quiet since i got home, they are now in separate runs and are just hiding:(.
I am totally gutted as I did not want two lonely males :(
Thankyou for all your advice as without it I would of not gone to the vets as i did not realise how deep their wounds are!
not sure what to do with them both now:{
 
AudioHeart said:
I've just had a flick through your previous posts (hope you don't mind) your boys are ten months old so they'll be going through their hormonal stage where dominance is tested, and they've recently been to a holiday home too....does your friend who cared for them whilst you were away have female pigs or kept them in a smaller cage or hutch? Boars need a lot of space. The move may of caused some stress too.

Unfortantly you can't change this now and once boars have drawn blood you can rarely make it work in the future. But you can have them living side by side in separate hutches/ cages, that way they can still talk to one another.

Hope the trip to the vets go well, big kisseys to your boys!

Laura xx
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Hi, I don't mind at all. my friend cared for them for a week and I think they did get stressed there, as cookie bit the lady!... not like him! the cage was a bit smaller as it was an indoor cage (no other piggys around).
Thanks for the advise ...am now gutted to separate them = two lonely piggys! :( . The hutches are next to each other but they will not be able to see each other.
 
Ours have had a bath today and gone into each other's cage/hutch(last bit was suggested by a guinea pig rescue centre near us. We are going to keep trying to get them back together as they seem to miss each other. They chat at the bars. She said she would try if we didn't succeed.Have you got a centre near to you for support.
Glad yours are ok though.
 
muchiemul said:
I have been to the vets she has stapled their wounds and given them anti biotics. They are both very quiet since i got home, they are now in separate runs and are just hiding:(.
I am totally gutted as I did not want two lonely males :(
Thankyou for all your advice as without it I would of not gone to the vets as i did not realise how deep their wounds are!
not sure what to do with them both now:{
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I'm glad that they're both reasonably ok. Did the vets gives any pain relief at all? Just thinking that if the wounds are quite deep the piggies could be in a fair bit of pain hence why they might be a little bit quiet?
 
muchiemul said:
Hi, Thankyou,
The only change was a recent holiday at a friends house and most recently in their new hutch, also they now have a bigger run , I also now have another rabbit ( to bond with my male) in the garden, it is a female but spayed. they are about 13 months old now.
I have separated them in to separate hutches :(


I have been to the vets she has stapled their wounds and given them anti biotics. They are both very quiet since i got home, they are now in separate runs and are just hiding:(.
I am totally gutted as I did not want two lonely males :(
Thankyou for all your advice as without it I would of not gone to the vets as i did not realise how deep their wounds are!
not sure what to do with them both now


Hi, I don't mind at all. my friend cared for them for a week and I think they did get stressed there, as cookie bit the lady!... not like him! the cage was a bit smaller as it was an indoor cage (no other piggys around).
Thanks for the advise ...am now gutted to separate them = two lonely piggys! :( . The hutches are next to each other but they will not be able to see each other.
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Heyoo,

It sounds like you have a wonderful set up for them and have given them both the best chance at making it work unfortantly boys can be a wee tricky too bond, especially during their hormonal months where most boars fall out.

I'm glad they've both been to the vets, and have been given anti-biotics, i think they might just need some piece and quite time for now. They've had a long day and are most likely still in shock.

They'll be able to hear one another in the hutches and you could try once they've reached 14 months old to bond them together again if they seem to be getting along okay when their in separate runs. Another option is to try boar dating once they've reached a year old at your local rescue, to find a compatible male or another option is to have them both neutered and placed with females. Otherwise they should be happy living side by side :)

I'm sorry to hear that they've fought though its not nice too see :(, hope you and the piggles are keeping okay and healing vibes for their wounds xxxxxx
 
Sorry you have had such a tough time:( - hope your boys start mending now.
I had to separate my teenage boy piggies a while ago after blood was drawn and it was v hard to make the decision to keep them apart. However, they are now living side by side where they can talk through mesh and are so much happier and thriving. Will try bonding when older. So really hope you can also have a good outcome but first they need to feel better:) Lots of luck
 
Oh I am so sorry to hear about your boys. :-(
I had a similiar experience a few months ago but not as bad (Alfie ended up with a split lip) it was so heartbreaking to see them live apart as Oscar seemed very lonely.
I also have 2 pairs of girls and decided to get the boys neutered. After a tricky first attempt at introducing them each to a pair of girls, I am glad to report that each boy has settled in with their girls and are loving it!

I hope they get well soon, and that you are okay too xxxxx
 
songrabbitt said:
Ours have had a bath today and gone into each other's cage/hutch(last bit was suggested by a guinea pig rescue centre near us. We are going to keep trying to get them back together as they seem to miss each other. They chat at the bars. She said she would try if we didn't succeed.Have you got a centre near to you for support.
Glad yours are ok though.
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Hi, yes, glyneath guinea pig rescue is near me, I would really like them to get back together one day so I will give them time. They both still seem very quiet this morning and fluffy seems to be looking for cookie by going to the bars where cookie is (cookie does not look for fluffy though)
x
 
youthnovels said:
I'm glad that they're both reasonably ok. Did the vets gives any pain relief at all? Just thinking that if the wounds are quite deep the piggies could be in a fair bit of pain hence why they might be a little bit quiet?
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hi, I don't think she gave them any pain relief, she did not say, they must of been in pain though the staples look horrible and must of hurt! they don't seem to be in pain now even though its hard to tell x
 
Maybe worth giving the vet a ring and saying they seem to be in pain, see if you can pick something up for them. I hope it all works out for you. Its so hard when they dont get along :(
 
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