Having Trouble Enjoying My Pigs - Please Help!

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Hello, All!

I hate to write this, but I am very sad and I am hoping that someone can give me some advice. The truth is, I am not enjoying my guinea pigs. Here’s my story:

I love all animals and love being a pet owner. I have had cats, dogs, fish, and mice. They all died from old age and had happy lives. I believe no one should get a pet unless they are prepared to give that animal everything it needs to thrive.

I researched guinea pig ownership for about 2 months before actually setting up a cage and getting ready to bring a new little friend home. I read that guinea pigs are friendly and almost never bite. Many people talk about how their pigs enjoy sitting on them while they watch t.v. or enjoy running around during “floor time”. I read that they are active and inquisitive. I also read that they are easy to care for, although I knew better than to think that cleaning a large cage would be “easy”. I thought I knew what I was getting into and went to the local rescue group to adopt some pigs.

The male that was shown to me was described by the shelter worker as “super sweet” although he bit my shirt. The shelter worker said that was a “love nibble” and meant that he was happy. I now know that biting a shirt means “put me down – now – before I bite harder!” The story of his surrender to the shelter was that his cage was in the bathroom to keep him away from the family dog and after keeping him for a year and a half, they did not feel it was fair to keep him in the bathroom any longer.

So, he came home with me to an 8 ft x 2.5 ft cage, located in a spot in the living room where he could interact with the family but still be away enough to not feel exposed and in danger. I understand they are prey animals and need to feel protected.

I soon learned that although he enjoys being petted, he absolutely hates to be held. He will bite if I try to hold him longer than about 2 seconds. I brought him to the vet to see if he was okay and he is fine. Just cranky. He really does not enjoy floor time either. He just sits there, no matter what I put down for him to eat or explore.

I thought perhaps he needed a friend, so I brought him back to the shelter where they helped me to match him up with a baby male. He nipped a few before finally deciding that one was acceptable. The one that he seemed to like, we brought home.

This was about a year and a half ago. Neither pig enjoys being held. The one still bites and the other runs away from being touched at all. If I do manage to grab him and hold him, he shivers the whole time like he is just sure he is going to be eaten at any moment. Truthfully, because of this reaction, I don’t have the heart to force myself on him very often. Perhaps he would get used to me eventually if I handled him more often, but I can’t stand the idea that I am making a little animal so terrified just because I want to hold it, so I pick him up only when I clean the cage or have to do nail trims, etc.

The other problem I have is that both pigs are extremely inactive. They just don’t do much. I have put all kinds of things in their cage to pique their interest, but to no avail. Unless it is food, or somewhere to hide they don’t care about it at all. Floor time is not a treat for them. They huddle together and look miserable the whole time.

What am I doing wrong? Why are my pigs not charming, friendly creatures like everyone else says they are? I am giving them excellent care from what I have researched (large cage, proper guinea pig toys, unlimited fresh good quality hay, pellets, fresh vegetables every day, clean unlimited water, etc.). They are not harassed by other pets or family. They are kept clean and are given opportunities to exercise and explore (of which they do not avail themselves).

My apologies for the long post, but I really want to enjoy these little guys. I don’t want to feel like they are just a chore and a mistake. Please help me figure out what I can do to get them to “come out of their shells” and do more than just eat, sleep, and poop.

Thank you.
 
I am very sorry! Please be aware that it is an absolute myth that all guinea pigs like being held and cuddled! But you can make friends in many other ways and enjoy your boys!

You may find the tips in these links here helpful. Tell your boys in guinea pig body language that you are boss, but also tell them you love them. That should massively improve the biting issue and your interaction.
Biting (This information threads contains lots more helpful links and tips).

Adult piggies can be rather lazy, but you can work around that to some extent. During roaming time, sprinkle little bits of veg around to encourage them to move or a call them over for a little treat from different places. Swish a little fruit juice around in a little dish or let them explore their dirty bedding. Cut fringes into an old rag or piece of fleece and hang it across the cage like a curtain. Fill a cardboard box with hay, cut some holes in and let them work their own way in during roaming time; that should keep them busy for a while! A veg or hay filled brown paper bag with the handles cut through or a hay stuffed toilet roll can also provide lots of fun. Here are more time tested tips: Guinea Pig Toys

I hope that these links and tips will help you to build up a happier relationship with you boys.
 
My boys don't like being held either - unless food is involved in which case they will sit on my knee quite happily until that last mouthful goes in then they are off! Luckily they love floor time except it isn't really floor time, it is just daytime as they freerange in the lounge all day every day (pretty much), in fact they sulk when we lock them up if we are going out. We spend a lot of time sitting on the floor talking to them and bribing them with food when we want attention! One thing that I do think helps is routine - we can set our clocks by them. They get breakfast veg at 8am followed by nuggets when they have finished their veg, treat hay comes mid morning, Timothy hay mid afternoon, dinner veg at 7pm, nuggets at 8.30, bedroom (meadow) hay at 10pm. They virtually always come to tell us when they are due something and they are always right. They were wheeking at the dining room door at 10pm tonight because that is where their hay is kept!

All of this came about because they didn't want cuddles so we had to find different ways to communicate and bond with them. If you haven't already, learn different piggy noises because they are surprisingly good communicators and then think outside the box to find different ways to build your relationship. I would sit on the floor with their dinner lettuce and wouldn't let them have it until one of them got on my knee. Now barney jumps up straight away - he gets his lettuce, I get my cuddles - everyone's a winner! But it took quite a bit of time to get there.
 
Another thing you can do to pick them up is to use a tunnel or something like that. Teddy didn't like to be picked up at all, so almost from the very beginning I used a tunnel to pick him up when it was lap or floor time. He got used pretty quickly to it and when I shook the tunnel (so the poops didn't fall on the floor) he knew it was time to get out of the cage, so he just waited until I set the tunnel again on the cage's floor and then he just went into it. It was just like an elevator. I laughed a lot because of it.

I also did what Wiebke said. Sometimes during floor time he was really curious and walked on different rooms of the house, but most of the times he was pretty lazy, so I had to call him with treats so he would come to me and move a little bit more! And honestly, even if you have to move youself so they do it, its really rewarding. At least I loved to see him following me.
 
I have found with floor time, once guinea pigs hit adulthood I have to give them some incentive to be out and about. Whereas my babies were always extremely energetic, adult guinea pigs can be lazy! So I scatter food around for them to forage for. It keeps them occupied for a bit. My younger one, Hadley, will still run laps around to burn off energy.... but Sundae eats and then goes back to bed. None of my pigs have been interested in toys (and Sundae actually appears stressed out when strange new things appear in her environment.) Basically, if they can't eat it, mine don't want it. Probably the best 'toy' they've ever had is a toilet paper roll with hay stuffed inside!

As for holding, not all pigs are lap pigs. My experience has been to hold small animals a LOT- even if the initially don't like it. When I was trying to socialize new pigs, I would make sure I held them once a day, cuddled up in a blanket to feel protected, and would also offer them food at that time. They did eventually become accustomed to it. So I would hold your nervous little guy in spite of having to chase him (or use a tunnel or cozy to pick him up.) He may never be a pig that stretches out and sleeps on your lap, but with more time being held he should get more comfortable with it with time.

No help with the nibbling.... one of mine is an occasional biter (though I think she is mainly just trying to eat our clothing... she likes to chew on anything fabric) so I am going to check out that link myself!
 
I'm.very much a new owner but I have found thatthey are such clever creatures eespecially when it comes to food, try bribing them at mealtimes, feed them their veg on your lap and make it a habit, they will soon learn that being handled equals treats, somebody else mentioned hay bags! Mine love these! Even stuffing used envelopes with hay they will try climbing in them, tear them and basically have a great old time, another idea is to thread some veg onto string or wool, something I made for my pigs was tassles from wool, I totally thought they would ignore them but had a great old time sniffing them! I think they enjoy the feeling of the tassles tickling their noses!
 
Thank you so much everyone for such great tips and advice! Some of them I have tried, but others I have not, so will be giving them a try. It is major cage cleaning day, so I am going to try sprinkling some veg around the floor to force them to break their usual huddle. The link on guinea pig behavior was particularly helpful, as there was much I did not know.

I think I need to start over and try again fresh. I got so discouraged at being bit by the one and seeing the abject terror from the other, that I just gave up. Thanks again, everyone for your help. Wish me luck! :)
 
Don't be discouraged. Mine never sit on my knee and watch TV and none of them will fall asleep on my lap. but they are all happy to be petted in their cages, or for me to give them a chin rub when they come to me when I'm sitting on the floor. They always run off when I try to pick them up and 2 of them scream blue murder. But they do enjoy a very quick kiss and cuddle in my arms when caught, we can clip nails and check them over easily enough and we have a good relationship with them. They are well and happy, and I adore them.
Just don't give up! You can build a good relationship with them, but they may not ever be true lap pigs.
 
My guinea Poglet absolutely hates being held and Posset has a habit of leaping out of your hands (meanings she's had a couple of drops; fortunately, never far enough to hurt her!) Syllabub didn't like being cuddled until after we got the two new guineas (November) and Toggle doesn't mind too much either. So don't think that them not liking cuddles is anything to do with you; it's just personality. Nothing I do will ever make Poglet enjoy cuddles (I'm hoping age will sort out Posset) or lap time. I know how disheartening it can be when you think you'll have a lap pig and find out that it's not a possibility.

I have found that having a towel or blanket on my lap for them to hide under can help them become more accostomed to being held. They seem to think that if they can see me, I can't see them, even on my lap! Hehe. I also found out (by complete accident) that when I had a fleece jumper on, Toggle and Posset seemed calmer and wanted to snuggle down a bit more than they ever did on jeans.

Please don't be discouraged! I hope you get to a point where you're happy with them soon! <3
 
Massive good luck!
We have a neurological guinea called Lettuce (Lettie) who is very funny about being picked up and handled, she is also a biter, although we think this is more to do with her disability and less out of fear or aggression, she's just a big silly!
We tend to take the top off her bedroom and just let her toddle herself out and onto the living room floor so that she can have a gallop around and use up her energy, we then tickle her chin and scoop her up and she snuggles down for cuddles and goes to sleep :-)

Theo screamed blue murder when we first had him, even if we dared to look at him! He would freeze when we held him and was generally a very timid little thing! He now comes to call, chats to us and we can tickle his nose etc, but catching and holding is still a bit hit and miss!
Bluey is a cuddle munchkin and pretty much throws herself out of the pen, we are lucky with her! haha!

With all of them it was a daily thing, they have almost constant interaction with us as they are in the living room with us, so we included them in conversations, used their pens to hold things like folded washing etc etc, and I think we just gradually wore them down! haha!

Hope that everything is going well! x
 
Well, I didn't have time for the major cage cleaning today, but I did spend extra time feeding them their salad piece by piece through the cage. They were not in the least afraid of me, so that's good. One step at a time I suppose.


Absolutley!

You sound much happier with your Guinea Pigs now and I am so pleased to hear this.
 
That is great news. You just have to build your bond with them in small steps and it sounds like you are well on the way if they are unafraid of you and prepared to eat from your hand. Patience, persistence, kindness and bribery will all pay off in the end x
 
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