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GI issues/bloat?

Tylerspigs

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Hello, my 2 yo male started making noises that sound like a human stomach growing when hungry. Neither him or my 6 month female ate their breakfast. I thought my male had bloat because of that noise, the no eating, lethargy and his stomach looked bigger plus it was painful to be lifted. When I went to see if it felt hard and hallow I thought it did but then realized I have never felt his stomach before. He squeaked when I put a little pressure. I brought both to the vet today, I am pretty sure my 6 month only stopped eating because she is a huge copycat. Since it was a last minute appointment I was unable to go into the Vet office as they just did the check in the back because they didn’t have an open exam room. The vet said neither felt like they had bloat or any obstructions but I am still unsure bc of those noises. I got meloxicam for pain/discomfort and cisapride for GI motility since not eating can cause serious issues in their GI tract. The vet offered an X-ray or blood tests but I opted out and said if they didn’t improve I would go back. Now I am second guessing my decision just because I didn’t want to pay 500 for X-rays. Should I have gotten the X-ray to fully rule out any internal obstructions? Of course if they need the xrays I will be happy to pay for all of their vet bills I just don‘t want to drop 500 if it isn‘t necessary.
 
Please urgently step in and syringe feed them both. They need a fibre rich recovery feed or mushed pellets. You must syringe feed them to replace their hay intake since hay is 80% of their daily food intake.

Also switch from the routine weekly weight checks and instead weigh them daily so you can monitor that you are getting enough syringe feed into them each day to keep their weight stable - approximately a minimum of 40-60ml per day.

Digestive Disorders: Not Eating - Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement)
Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures
 
Hi

:agr: fully with @Piggies&buns

Your daily weight monitoring on your normal kitchen scales first thing in the morning for best day to day comparison and to allow you to plan out the feeding support for the coming 24 hours according to it and your continuing feeding support that is tailored to what the scales tell you are crucial in helping to get your piggies through the crisis.

Keep in mind that over three quarters of what a guinea pig eats in a day should be hay/fresh grass (veg and pellets together only replace the supplementary role that wild forage used to have) and that you can never monitor its intake just by eye, your support feeding care of replacing the all important grass fibre for both the gut and dental growth is crucial and may need much larger amounts than you think - ideally 60-90 ml but in a very poorly, very weak piggy you aim for 40 ml in 24 hours just to just keep them alive. How much and how often you need to feed in a session depend both your weigh-in and how much your piggy is able to process in one go.
Our very practical Care links at the end of the previous posts contain all the necessary in-depth information, step-by-step advice and the little how-to tips that enable you to do your very best and have as much of a chance in winning the battle as possible. We have included emergency improvisation advice in the guides to make as much use of what you have at home or quickly available and can step in asap in any emergency.

Your home feeding care is just as important as any medication because the medication can only get to work if your piggy still has the strength to fight.

Sadly there is no ideal medication for guinea pigs and other rodents with their very long, narrow gut; any major digestive upsets are always very much a battle for life. Please take the time to read our Care guide links because you will find that they answer all the little questions that we cannot answer in every single post, seeing that we are all doing this for free in our own free time. We have put 15 years of practical forum experience with all sorts of questions around support care and our own owner experience, which is reaching back half a century in some cases, into those guides and have made them as easy to follow for anybody, however inexperienced.

The poo output (or lack of it) is always running at least one day behind the intake. With a sluggish gut, this can take even longer. Think of a conveyor belt. You will see a marked gap and then usually some very funny and small poos before your full feeding support is kicking in 1-2 days later. If you are not feeding enough, then that is also reflected but you lose a crucial day or two of adjusting your support help level if you only go by the poo output. Weighing is like instant communication on Earth while care via poo monitoring has the time lag of somebody having an emergency on an outer planet.

This guide here is our new updated support care guide, which you may find the best to follow: All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures
This guide here looks specifically at care needs during major digestive illnesses; we have all lumped them together because they can sometimes mix and the medication and care needs are basically the same.
Digestive Disorders: Not Eating - Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement)

I hope that this helps you? I am keeping my fingers very firmly crossed for you!
 
Please urgently step in and syringe feed them both. They need a fibre rich recovery feed or mushed pellets. You must syringe feed them to replace their hay intake since hay is 80% of their daily food intake.

Also switch from the routine weekly weight checks and instead weigh them daily so you can monitor that you are getting enough syringe feed into them each day to keep their weight stable - approximately a minimum of 40-60ml per day.

Digestive Disorders: Not Eating - Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement)
Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures
I am feeding critical care and EmerAid to both of them. They’ve started eating few pellets although they don’t like their newish brand of pellets as much even though I slowly integrated them in over the past month and a half. I also syringe feed them water to make sure they’re hydrated. Sad news to them they did not get veggies last night bc I didn’t want to give something that wasn’t rich in fiber. I also always weigh daily when they don’t feel well.
 
I am feeding critical care and EmerAid to both of them. They’ve started eating few pellets although they don’t like their newish brand of pellets as much even though I slowly integrated them in over the past month and a half. I also syringe feed them water to make sure they’re hydrated. Sad news to them they did not get veggies last night bc I didn’t want to give something that wasn’t rich in fiber. I also always weigh daily when they don’t feel well.

Sounds like you are doing all you can and all the right things! that is great to hear! Thank you for coming back.
We have to ensure that piggies get the right kind and right level of support care since there is so much bad advice out there.
All you can do now is to hang in there and if needed contact your vet for more gut meds/painkillers if needed. Bloating is generally a marathon and not a sprint, sadly.
Please make sure that you also look after yourself and plan in your sleep/rest periods so you can stand the distance. Looking after very ill piggies is very draining and can become very lonely and dispiriting once sleep deprivation and exhaustion sets in.

All the best!

PS: Unlike social media which rely on starting lots of new posts, we provide ongoing support for as long as you need in this section but in order to do that for exactly your individual situation, we ask our members to please keep any updates and questions to the same thread so we can refer back and check what has been done and said already and not just constantly repeat our standard advice.
 
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