For those who have lost their piggy and are now left with one but are not ready/do not want another piggy…please read.

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Hello all, if you are a grieving guinea pig parent, I am firstly so sorry for your loss. If you have a single guinea pig now and are concerned with what to do and are not fully ready to get a second guinea pig and/or you do not want another guinea pig, this post is for you.

So recently I had lost my guinea pig and was now left with one. I had joined this forum out of desperation to seek advice on what to do to help my lone guinea pig through this hard time. I had scoured the internet, read article after article, watched countless videos on YouTube and even TikTok, and all of the information I was finding was telling me I had no choice, I had to get another guinea pig so my single one would be happy. As someone who does not want another guinea pig, it was very stressful to go through thinking that this was my only option.

Of course I love guinea pigs and I used to have a total of 4 piggies, and I love every one of them to bits, but now that I have my last one I’m just not ready to continue on caring for any more. Especially since my last piggy when she passed it was a very traumatic experience and I know that when my last one will have her time it’ll be so devastating, and just thinking about becoming attached to another one and having to continue this piggy cycle is just too much for me to handle.

I tried looking into fostering a guinea pig so at least my girl wouldn’t be lonely and there wouldn’t be any commitment, but of course that still would be hard in itself, and some people had even told me if I’m unwilling to get another guinea pig I should consider giving up my current one to someone who would keep her in a herd, and I understand people were trying to help me but that’s overall devastating to hear and of course I do not want to let go of my piggy.

I felt cornered, I felt helpless, I honestly felt selfish. I’ve read so much online that guinea pigs can go into a deep depression without any cage mate while dealing with grief, they can decline in health and stop eating, drinking and acting like themselves and then ultimately would die of loneliness. Of course I would never ever want that for not just my pig but any piggy out there. That’s terrifying.

But then I decided to call my vet and speak with her about all of my concerns. Always if you have a guinea pig of course go to an exotic veterinary clinic because they specialize in care for guinea pigs and other exotic animals such as ferrets, rabbits, hedgehogs, etc. unlike a regular dog and cat vet. I told her about my concerns and what I was finding on the internet and she told me that it is possible for all of what I read to happen but that it is also possible for a guinea pig after the death of their cage mate to live a happy life alone.

If my guinea pig was a baby, as in a couple of months to only a few years old, it would’ve been a completely different situation and I would’ve been strongly encouraged and advised by my vet to get another piggy, but my guinea pig is 5 years old, and typically guinea pigs live to about 5-7 years old and the vet said it’s a bit more common than I’d think that older piggies after their cage mate dies doesn’t necessarily need another one.

She told me of course it heavily depends on the piggy because every piggy deals with grief differently. If my piggy was obviously in distress, not eating, not pooping or peeing, not drinking water, acting heavily lethargic and disinterested in everything, then of course she’d have encouraged me to get another piggy because mine in that case would need another cage mate. However she told me because my piggy is eating, drinking water, pooping and peeing, playing with her toys, and acting like herself, she said it’s more than likely that my girl will be okay but of course if anything changes to let her know.

That gave me such a wave of relief and it wasn’t just her that I spoke with, I also spoke to another vet technician at her office and she had told me that she owned a single piggy who had a cage mate but had passed away and her piggy is still happy and healthy.

My vet told me that the internet generalizes a lot of the information about guinea pigs because yes they are social creatures and yes they do their best in large herds and yes if you are going to be getting a guinea pig you should purchase/adopt/rescue 2-3 guinea pigs so they aren’t lonely, but in the case of having had guinea pigs and then only being left with one piggy, it really all depends on your specific piggy and how they are behaving and handling their own grief.

It’s been about 6 days now since we lost our piggy and my lone girl is still doing fine. My vet’s advice was to give her extra TLC (tender love and care), hand feed her more, sit by the cage and speak with her, give her more cuddles, let her out more, buy her more toys, just overall do what I can and more to keep her feeling happy and less alone.

Of course, god forbid if anything changes in her behavior I’ll call her right away, but overall I did ask my vet specifically “is it possible after a piggy cage mate passes can the surviving pig live alone” and she said “yes.” Of course it depends on your specific piggy, obviously if they are displaying signs of distress then please consider getting another one, but otherwise yes it is possible.

Always speak to your exotic vet clinic. Talk to your trusted exotic vet doctor. Don’t make hasty decisions on your own. Don’t listen to the internet when information is generalized and they don’t know your specific guinea pig. I’m not a vet or healthcare professional, if you have any questions or concerns about your grieving guinea pig then please call your exotic vet and have an honest conversation about how you feel and your concerns.

I do not encourage people to purchase/adopt/rescue guinea pigs and keep them by themselves when they are babies or only a few years old but when it comes to having an older single guinea pig after their cage mate passes away it really is a case by case basis and getting another piggy really depends on how your specific piggy is doing.

I’m making this post because when my piggy passed away I was in heavy distress trying to find information and help on what I could do. My advice is to stop searching and instead speak to an exotic vet professional who has experience and medical knowledge in handling and caring for guinea pigs, because chances are they’ve been in this situation more often then you.

If you want another piggy after the death of their cage mate then please go a head! Get as many as you and your piggy would like definitely, but if you are a grieving piggy parent and are not ready to get another one and / or you just do not want to continue the piggy cycle, my advice is to take your vet’s advice and keep an eye on your piggy because if they’re doing okay, maybe they really are okay.
 
It's still going to be a hard disagree from me, even if one vet says it's fine.

I rescued a boar "too aggressive" to be bonded and was advised to keep him on his own forever. I did, because I didn't know better and a trusted expert told me it was okay. You know what? He died alone, completely alone as I wasn't there. He had absolutely nothing but his cage and silence in his final hours. The deep pit of guilt I felt when I found him passed is still there.

I'm not saying there aren't different circumstances for each pig, I just wouldn't ever encourage anyone to follow that path if there was any other way.
 
You’re right, a guinea pig will survive on their own, but is surviving the same as living? If I locked you in a box with no enrichment or entertainment (which is what a friend is for a guinea pig) but I still fed you, you would survive.
No one can force you to get a new pig, but I don’t think it’s fair to try and sway others the same way, although yes you are more than welcome to state your opinion.

I’ve recently been in a dilemma with a single older boar, and I was going to keep him in my room, but he just wouldn’t be happy. I’ve came to a compromise as I know even being able to hear a guinea pig is a much better life than one alone.
Until some crazy scientist creates a device that turns humans into guinea pigs, your interaction will never be enough. You could sit next to their cage 24 hours straight and you would still be cutting it short.

As someone with an older pig (5 years), the fact you’ve put them down as unworthy of having a friend/a fulfilled life is upsetting to me. When humans turn 80 we don’t just lock them in a box with no interaction because of it. Some guinea pigs on here are 9 or even 10, sounds like a quiet 4 years to me.

I cant/won’t make you change your mind, but I will state my opinion.
I’m sorry for your loss and I hope you and your pig have many more happy days together.
 
Firstly I am so sorry for your losses and I hope you and your piggy have a lot of happy days left together.

I will eventually face the dilemma myself. I currently have 3 guinea pigs but I’ve made the decision that these will be my last 3. It’s going to eventually happen where one of them will be left alone when the other two pass. I’m lucky that a close friend of mine has offered to take the remaining one to live with her herd but it will still break my heart to let her go 😞 It will depend on her age at the time on what final decision I make for her though. If she’s really elderly, I’ll keep her alone as some older sows are set in their ways and choose to prefer their own company or I’ll see if I can foster a guinea pig.

But 5 isn’t old though and your piggy could live for another few years. Sadly no amount of human interaction from you will replace that of a piggy companion 😞
 
I am so sorry for your losses and the traumatic passing of your last pig, I appreciate how difficult it is. I was in a similar position with my last piggy. I will disagree with your vet on one point. The point of living a "happy" life alone. Some piggies will not go in to a deep depression and will manage alone for the rest of their life but that is not the same as living a happy life.

I made the decision that my last group of 4 would be my last piggies for a while. After a series of shock losses from some serious illnesses I was left with just one. I had had her since she was 6 weeks old and it broke my heart after a few years to be in a situation where I gave her up or condemned her to a life in isolation. Guinea pigs can actually live 10 years so it is potentially a long time to have no one to "talk" to. Imagine if you were 60 and then just saw no other human for the next 20 years before you passed, you might be fine but it's likely it would not be a happy 20 years. I was lucky in that I was able to re-home her through the forum and I know she is loved and has lots of friends again.
 
I lost Timmy age 7.5 and felt exactly the same as you. Jenny was 7.5 too and so I was sure she would soon follow. I considered options but I thought rehoming her would be too traumatic for her, bonding with a foster also seemed to be really stressful only to have to return the foster through no fault of theirs very quickly.So I decided to allow her to see out her last few weeks or months alone.

Little did I know she would live over 18 months. I lost her two weeks ago age 9. She lived all that time alone. And that was my fault. She shouldn't have and I feel dreadfully guilty.

5 isn't old enough to make those choices really and I would advocate reconsideration although I do have sympathy with the piggy cycle.
 
I was in the same situation with my bereaved Guinea pig. I kept her very close, lots of interaction. It wasn’t enough. After a while I couldn’t cope seeing her alone and I got her a friend. That friend had babies and now we have 4… and so the piggy cycle continues! 🤷🏽‍♀️🤣 We’re over the moon though.

You obviously care very much for your piggy. Be kind to yourself as you are still grieving. Do what’s best for you both in the now xx
 
To everyone commenting on this post I made, this post is not me trying to sway any pig owners to not get a new cage mate for their furry friend. If you would like another piggy then by all means go a head and get as many as you like, genuinely that is completely fine and your decision. I made this post exactly for the reason why everyone is commenting and quite frankly attacking me on my and my vet’s decision to keep my pig alone. I am emotionally not ready for another piggy and nor am I going to surrender my girl to anyone else. One person commented saying that I shouldn’t be listening to a single vet, then if that doesn’t make you comfortable why not call other vet offices to ask for a 2nd, 3rd or even 5th opinion on how to handle a situation like this? Some other people were commenting that making this decision when she’s only 5 is bad on my part, guinea pigs life span live to about 5-7 years old. If any other piggies live longer than that then that’s amazing and makes me happy, but over all piggies don’t usually have the longest life of more than 5-7 years. I made this post for anyone who was feeling guilty about not wanting another piggy because people shouldn’t be shaming others for that. Yes it is ideal to keep piggies in herds, but as I said before it is all a case by case basis and depends heavily on your piggies. If you as the piggy parent want to get your piggy another cage mate then please do, but if are not ready to do that then I’d advise anyone to speak to as many exotic vet professionals as you can. If you disagree with me that’s fine. My overall point of the post was to advise people not to listen to anyone on the internet, even myself, but to seek help and advice from actual professionals and if you don’t like the advice one exotic vet may give, there are plenty others you may feel free to call and speak with. I’m not here to cause problems in the community and try to persuade pig parents after the loss of their pet to no longer get any more piggies. All my intention was that if there is anyone on the internet who did what I did and googled for hours trying to seek validation and help on what to do after the loss of a piggy, I just wanted to offer some reassurance that whatever you decide as the pig parent is only your choice to make no one else’s. If you feel getting another pig is your best decision then do it. If you feel not doing that is your best decision then don’t do it. Whatever your choice is and whatever you think is best is all that matters, not my comment or any comment on the internet from people who don’t know you or your pets.
 
I’m sorry you felt attacked, but unfortunately not many members will agree with keeping a guinea pig on their own, as it will not enrich them and lead them to live a life of “survival” but not a particularly enriched one.

Personally my point on the age thing was that a piggie shouldn’t be left alone because they’re 5. Hopefully your pig will live for many more years, but just because they’re older doesn’t mean they should live those years alone.

You are free to make your own decisions, and I do genuinely appreciate your point of view and why you want to make this decision, but I don’t agree with it and wanted to share my point of view. Guinea pigs in general will not live a happy enriched life without a friend, no matter how long they survive and that’s a fact.

Again, all I do is wish you and your girl the best x
 
I really feel for you, I have been in a similar situation, as have many of the above posters.
Nobody on here is trying to attack you or shame you, we are a very open community and pride ourselves on guinea pig welfare. :)
Unfortunately it is often the case that the right decision for our piggy is the hardest one for us. That is the tragedy of the 'piggy cycle', and the case for all social animals.
As an aside, I actually value the vast experience of the people on this forum more than the opinions of exotic vets (and trust me, I have seen a lot of vets), especially when it comes to the emotional needs of guinea pigs.
I'm not sure whether you're based in the UK or not, but over here we have something called the 'five freedoms', which owners need to provide for their animals, including the right for social animals to be housed with species-appropriate companions. This is always hard to accommodate when you reach the end of the piggy cycle, but the wonderful people on this forum wrote an amazing guide talking all about appropriate companionship for piggies and the options for single guinea pigs. You may find it an insightful read, I myself have pored over it many a time in the past when deciding what the best decision for my bereaved guinea pig would be: Single Guinea Pigs - Challenges and Responsibilities

For yourself, you may find it useful to read the sensitively written guides on bereavement, including how to look after a bereaved guinea pig but also how to look after your own health: Human Bereavement - Grieving, coping tips and support links for guinea pig owners and their children
Looking After A Bereaved Guinea Pig
If you find it helpful, you can post a tribute to your guinea pig in the 'Rainbow Bridge' section. <3

It's lovely to have you on the forum anyway, and if you'd like to post some piggy pictures then we'd love to see them.
 
Just want to show my support and say again as I did on your first post that I'm so sorry for your loss.

I agree with most of what's already been said really. I think the key takeaway is:
  • Guinea pigs are happier with companions, no matter their age.
  • Try to do what's in the best interests of the remaining piggie.
  • The decision is for the piggie owner to make.
Of course, as you say, it's always great to speak to a specialist vet, but I would also just add that there guinea pig experts on here who really know what they are talking about, more than some vets in my experience, and having been helped out of a hole myself in the last couple of weeks by loving, caring and experienced guinea pig owners. General internet searches - definitely avoid (so much conflicting information), but this forum is a fantastic resource.

Wish you all the best for you and your girl ❤️ x
 
It’s worth bearing in mind we don’t always comment for your benefit. We comment for the benefit of others that come looking for information on similar themes. You are always going to do what you are going to do, you’ve made it very clear, however another person might be more open to other views.
 
It appears that you searched and searched until eventually you found a person who would give you the answer you were looking for. It seems to me that from all your research the advice in an overwhelming majority, as it is on here, was that pigs should not be kept as singles.
 
You made a contentious post on an emotive topic in a space where the resounding (or at least vocal) majority have beliefs contrary to yours. Of course the post got bites (the response kind, not the aggressive kind).

As @Tigermoth mentioned, my post wasn't for you. My pig suffered, I suffer, and I will stand on my soapbox banging on about this forever just in case it stops it happening again, even if only one person listens to me.
 
I’m sorry for your loss and sorry to hear you are feeling attacked. That is never the intention of anybody on the forum.

The difficulty is that not all vets have the behavioural knowledge you would hope. They may know their stuff medically but we still see incorrect behavioural advice cropping up and sometimes meaning the piggies end up in a situation which isnt ideal or best for them.

Just because a piggy is still eating and still behaving normally does not mean they are having a happy life alone. Most will never show their loneliness or go into depression, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t feeling it. It’s that their instincts have kicked in and they are doing what they need to do to survive.
5 is not old but it doesn’t matter the age, the fact is any length of time alone is difficult for them and goes against the way they are wired to live.

Best wishes to you and your piggy
 
I'm sorry you've felt attacked you've chosen to start a conversation about something many people in the community feel extremely passionate about. If you ask enough people, Read enough articles, talk to enough experts someone will back up your idea whether it's correct or not. If a huge majority say its wrong you have to ask yourself why. I'm sure a lot of experts, vets rescue owners etc will agree with us. We only respond so passionately because we're not only talking about the decision you make for your piggie but the decisions of other people looking for something/ anything to back up that idea who read your story and think that's right for their pigs.

I agree with other people that have said 5 is not old enough to condem them to a life of solitude. 3,4,5 years may not seem like much in the life of a human but that can be half a Guinea Pigs life which is a huge proportion of a life to be without companionship.

It seems as though this hunt for confirmation on your beliefs is driven by a hurting within yourself. Grief is hard but it's clear you love your piggie and if you love them you wouldn't want them to suffer. Maybe it's worth speaking to someone about your grief it's easy to feel like we don't want to love again because we don't want to grieve again and this is a normal thought process but not a healthy place to get stuck.
 
I am sorry that you feel attacked by the responses. If you feel there are any responses that are out of line you can use the report function to alert the staff team who will consider whether forum rules have been broken and what action, if any to take. I am not including myself in that team now as I have already advised them of my intention to step down due to personal commitments.

I appreciate that you wanted to make an informative post however this is a forum which is an open discussion board. Any post made is open to discussion and subject to the opinions of individual members. I was one person saying there was one point I disagreed with your vet on, I would have disagreed with that same point from my own vet too, that is just my opinion I was voicing and that is very much how forums work. Just because others disagree doesn't mean that you shouldn't listen to your vet or that you shouldn't agree with your vet, you too are entitled to voice your opinion and make your own decisions.
 
I responded to your earlier post about your situation with what I think was compassion (I certainly intended it to be), but didn't receive a response there. I'm sorry if you felt attacked by my response or the response of others. Obviously, in the end, it is your decision. Obviously, strangers on the internet do not know you or your guinea pig personally (just as you don't know anyone else's situation or pigs personally either.) When you ask a question on a forum such as this, you are going to have people answer based on their experience, their opinions, and the knowledge that they've accrued so far. They're not seeking to shame you or make you feel guilty, they're attempting to give you the benefit of their experience and knowledge, because you asked. No one is saying you're a bad guinea pig owner, no one is saying you don't love your pig or want to give them a good life. No one is judging you on a personal level. Best practice is to keep social animals with others of their species. If, for whatever reason, you cannot do that, do as your vet says and monitor your pig for eating/drinking/energy/signs of depression or stress over time. You clearly love your piggie and are paying attention, I hope you are able to grieve, move forward, and you and your pig have all the happiness in the world. No one's attempting to shame you here... I'm certainly not, I'm just attemping to answer a question you asked to the best of my ability.
 
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