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Female Guinea Pig - Blood coming from bottom - Advice needed!

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Hi there,

I have a 5 year old female guinea pig and last Friday (4th February 2022) I noticed fresh red blood coming out from her bottom and immediately took her to the vet that day. They did x-rays, ultrasound and performed physical examination on her. They were not sure what it could be and thought maybe they could see something on the photos as well feeling some kind of a blockage/tumor/inflammation down there, but said they were quite sure that it wasn't bladder stones. They gave us antibiotics to give for 10 days and pain medication for 3 days. She stopped bleeding on Saturday and there hasn't been any more blood coming from her after that. Her poops also stayed normal up til Sunday, then they started to be come very few and very little. I have also noticed that she isn't peeing as much as she used to do.

She was eating and drinking just fine prior to this and also on Saturday the day after. But on Sunday that all stopped, she doesn't seem to want to eat her pellets anymore or hay or vegetables and drinks very little amounts of water now and then. I have been syringe feeding her since Sunday and it started well - she seemed to be very hungry then and took the syringe all by her self. But now I kinda have to "force" syringe feed her small amounts at a time through out the day.

Her coat and overall appearance is good, she does clean her self and doesn't seem to be sick other than spending allot of her time inside her hut and only coming out sometimes through out the day. She sometimes nibbles at her house or toys when she goes outside like she used to do and seems to be able to move normally around the cage.

The one thing I do notice is that her abdomen is larger or more swollen to the sides and harder to the touch. We went to the vet again last Monday for a follow up and new x-ray photos were taken. The vet did not see as much of "blockage/tumor/inflammation" down there nor feel it as he did last Friday and thought it was a good sign that the bleeding had stopped. The vet thought it could maybe be air inside her or some blockage and asked me to feed her 0,3ml of Optibac Baby Drops Probiotics with food 2-3x per day. Which we have been doing since Monday. She also gets about 1ml of Fibreplex 1 hour after her antibiotics every day. She has been pooping a bit more but very very small poops and small amounts. And this doesn't seem to have increased her appetite - she still isn't much interested in eating from a syringe or by her self. Her weight went a bit down from Friday to Sunday but is back up to her normal weight now, but this does alarm me as she is not pooping or peeing very much (very little - sometimes hard for me to notice).

I dont think it is her teeth as she has always been very diligent at chewing her huts and toys made from wood that is inside her cage and has always had plenty of fresh dried hay to eat at anytime every day as well as pellets. The vet also didn't think it is her teeth and she still sometimes goes outside to chew her house/hut and toys as of today.

So my question is, does anybody know what could be causing all of this and why she doesn't want to eat anymore by her self? And is there something more I could be doing for her or feeding her?


Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to make sure that all of the information is here to read and hope somebody has some advice/knowledge to share with me. Thank you!
 
Hi there,

I have a 5 year old female guinea pig and last Friday (4th February 2022) I noticed fresh red blood coming out from her bottom and immediately took her to the vet that day. They did x-rays, ultrasound and performed physical examination on her. They were not sure what it could be and thought maybe they could see something on the photos as well feeling some kind of a blockage/tumor/inflammation down there, but said they were quite sure that it wasn't bladder stones. They gave us antibiotics to give for 10 days and pain medication for 3 days. She stopped bleeding on Saturday and there hasn't been any more blood coming from her after that. Her poops also stayed normal up til Sunday, then they started to be come very few and very little. I have also noticed that she isn't peeing as much as she used to do.

She was eating and drinking just fine prior to this and also on Saturday the day after. But on Sunday that all stopped, she doesn't seem to want to eat her pellets anymore or hay or vegetables and drinks very little amounts of water now and then. I have been syringe feeding her since Sunday and it started well - she seemed to be very hungry then and took the syringe all by her self. But now I kinda have to "force" syringe feed her small amounts at a time through out the day.

Her coat and overall appearance is good, she does clean her self and doesn't seem to be sick other than spending allot of her time inside her hut and only coming out sometimes through out the day. She sometimes nibbles at her house or toys when she goes outside like she used to do and seems to be able to move normally around the cage.

The one thing I do notice is that her abdomen is larger or more swollen to the sides and harder to the touch. We went to the vet again last Monday for a follow up and new x-ray photos were taken. The vet did not see as much of "blockage/tumor/inflammation" down there nor feel it as he did last Friday and thought it was a good sign that the bleeding had stopped. The vet thought it could maybe be air inside her or some blockage and asked me to feed her 0,3ml of Optibac Baby Drops Probiotics with food 2-3x per day. Which we have been doing since Monday. She also gets about 1ml of Fibreplex 1 hour after her antibiotics every day. She has been pooping a bit more but very very small poops and small amounts. And this doesn't seem to have increased her appetite - she still isn't much interested in eating from a syringe or by her self. Her weight went a bit down from Friday to Sunday but is back up to her normal weight now, but this does alarm me as she is not pooping or peeing very much (very little - sometimes hard for me to notice).

I dont think it is her teeth as she has always been very diligent at chewing her huts and toys made from wood that is inside her cage and has always had plenty of fresh dried hay to eat at anytime every day as well as pellets. The vet also didn't think it is her teeth and she still sometimes goes outside to chew her house/hut and toys as of today.

So my question is, does anybody know what could be causing all of this and why she doesn't want to eat anymore by her self? And is there something more I could be doing for her or feeding her?


Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to make sure that all of the information is here to read and hope somebody has some advice/knowledge to share with me. Thank you!

Hi and welcome

I am very sorry for your situation; especially as your vet doesn't seem to be very familiar with guinea pigs.
You have done absolutely the right thing to have her seen by a vet asap.

Bleeding from the anus is a very serious emergency. Often it is caused by cancerous ovarian cysts, a bladder stone stuck in the urethra or bladder trauma in the wake of passing or removing a stone.

Your girl is very likely in pain and is very ill. Please step in with syringe feeding support - you can mush up pellets in a pinch but in this case you need to cut off the tip of your syringe just before it widens in order to let the rougher pellet fibre pass through (this is what piggies need) but still keep the plunger fixed inside the syringe. You need to feed and water every two hours, as much as she is willing to take. If she is no longer willing to take any food or water at all or is too weak to swallow, then she is no longer able to process food.
For all the practical little details please read the information links below. We have tried our best to include all the tips and info that you may need in a serious emergency situation.

Take the time to read the very practical and helpful information in our one stop emergency, crisis and bridging care information collection: Emergency, Crisis and Bridging Care until a Vet Appointment
Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre

Please be aware that your piggy's body could have already started to close down and that she may be in the process of dying. This guide does contain a chapter that helps you spot whether your girl has crossed the line of return or not and what to you can do for her during the dying process; especially if you do not have instant vet access.
A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs

I am thinking of you and your girl and keeping my fingers very firmly crossed.
 
I’m so sorry your piggy is so poorly. I can’t add anything more. But I’m thinking of you. I hope she improves soon. Definitely more painkillers may help. 🤞
 
Hi and welcome

I am very sorry for your situation; especially as your vet doesn't seem to be very familiar with guinea pigs.
You have done absolutely the right thing to have her seen by a vet asap.

Bleeding from the anus is a very serious emergency. Often it is caused by cancerous ovarian cysts, a bladder stone stuck in the urethra or bladder trauma in the wake of passing or removing a stone.

Your girl is very likely in pain and is very ill. Please step in with syringe feeding support - you can mush up pellets in a pinch but in this case you need to cut off the tip of your syringe just before it widens in order to let the rougher pellet fibre pass through (this is what piggies need) but still keep the plunger fixed inside the syringe. You need to feed and water every two hours, as much as she is willing to take. If she is no longer willing to take any food or water at all or is too weak to swallow, then she is no longer able to process food.
For all the practical little details please read the information links below. We have tried our best to include all the tips and info that you may need in a serious emergency situation.

Take the time to read the very practical and helpful information in our one stop emergency, crisis and bridging care information collection: Emergency, Crisis and Bridging Care until a Vet Appointment
Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre

Please be aware that your piggy's body could have already started to close down and that she may be in the process of dying. This guide does contain a chapter that helps you spot whether your girl has crossed the line of return or not and what to you can do for her during the dying process; especially if you do not have instant vet access.
A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs

I am thinking of you and your girl and keeping my fingers very firmly crossed.
Hi, thank you for your reply❤️

She has gotten more bloated and is still gaining weight. It concerns me as she is not pooping or peeing very much and not normal poops, and doesn't want to eat anything by her self but she does sometimes through out the day drink from the water bottle. She gets Fibreplex 1 hour after the antibiotics 2x per day and Optibac Baby Drops Probiotics 3x per day with syringe food. I try to give her as much food and water through a syringe as she can take each feeding time, but I am getting really worried that she is bloating more up and not returning the food in a normal way. I would say that she is still her "normal" self - moving a bit around the cage and cleaning herself and chewing the huts, so I dont think she is yet in the process of dying. But she does spend allot of time inside the huts.

Do you know what could be causing the bloating? And is there something I could do at home to try to relief the bloating?

Also the vet suggested to operate on her to try to see what is going on but that is always really risky and specially because of her age. I am not sure that I want to put her through that.
 
Hi, thank you for your reply❤️

She has gotten more bloated and is still gaining weight. It concerns me as she is not pooping or peeing very much and not normal poops, and doesn't want to eat anything by her self but she does sometimes through out the day drink from the water bottle. She gets Fibreplex 1 hour after the antibiotics 2x per day and Optibac Baby Drops Probiotics 3x per day with syringe food. I try to give her as much food and water through a syringe as she can take each feeding time, but I am getting really worried that she is bloating more up and not returning the food in a normal way. I would say that she is still her "normal" self - moving a bit around the cage and cleaning herself and chewing the huts, so I dont think she is yet in the process of dying. But she does spend allot of time inside the huts.

Do you know what could be causing the bloating? And is there something I could do at home to try to relief the bloating?

Also the vet suggested to operate on her to try to see what is going on but that is always really risky and specially because of her age. I am not sure that I want to put her through that.

Hi

The bloating is unfortunately a secondary problem to what is causing the bleeding and loss of appetite, and what is getting worse very quickly now; any medication is just a plaster on a festering sore.

The operation is a last ditch make or break attempt to give her a chance in the face of an otherwise inevitable loss in the coming days; it could be even as soon as tonight or tomorrow. Your girl is already in great discomfort and pain and edging closer to dying with every hour, I am awfully sorry to say.

If you do not want to risk an operation asap, you may want to consider euthanasia now, sadly, because your girl is getting past any rescue attempt if she is not already past it, in order to spare her any further unnecessary suffering.

This is unfortunately not a situation with an easy way out; you only have the choice between a rock and a hard place, as we say in English. Having been there often enough with my own piggies (including a sow with a burst ovarian cyst), I really feel for you but time is unfortunately running out now for your girl.

PLEASE put your girl's welfare before your own fears and hopes and be there for her in her hour of need. I fully well know how hard it is to face up to reality but you can be as sad as you need afterwards as long as you are strong for one you love NOW while she needs you making the right decisions and not wasting precious time being upset yourself.
A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs
 
I’m thinking of you at this sad time. I had to make the awful decision in November to let my 16.5 year old doggy go. So I know how hard it is. If you think that she isn’t near the end yet then keep on with the syringe feeding and get more pain killers. The vet said they thought there was an improvement. Do what you feel is right for your piggy. Be brave. Take care. ❤️
 
I’m thinking of you at this sad time. I had to make the awful decision in November to let my 16.5 year old doggy go. So I know how hard it is. If you think that she isn’t near the end yet then keep on with the syringe feeding and get more pain killers. The vet said they thought there was an improvement. Do what you feel is right for your piggy. Be brave. Take care. ❤️
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for your kind words❤️ We are going back to the vet first thing in the morning and will reevaluate the situation based on what is best for her.
 
Hi

The bloating is unfortunately a secondary problem to what is causing the bleeding and loss of appetite, and what is getting worse very quickly now; any medication is just a plaster on a festering sore.

The operation is a last ditch make or break attempt to give her a chance in the face of an otherwise inevitable loss in the coming days; it could be even as soon as tonight or tomorrow. Your girl is already in great discomfort and pain and edging closer to dying with every hour, I am awfully sorry to say.

If you do not want to risk an operation asap, you may want to consider euthanasia now, sadly, because your girl is getting past any rescue attempt if she is not already past it, in order to spare her any further unnecessary suffering.

This is unfortunately not a situation with an easy way out; you only have the choice between a rock and a hard place, as we say in English. Having been there often enough with my own piggies (including a sow with a burst ovarian cyst), I really feel for you but time is unfortunately running out now for your girl.

PLEASE put your girl's welfare before your own fears and hopes and be there for her in her hour of need. I fully well know how hard it is to face up to reality but you can be as sad as you need afterwards as long as you are strong for one you love NOW while she needs you making the right decisions and not wasting precious time being upset yourself.
A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs
Hi, thank you again for the reply.

We are going back to the vet first thing in the morning and will reevaluate the situation based on what is best for her at this time. I went through a difficult loss almost a year ago with one of my other guinea pigs so I am always going to put their welfare and comfort first❤️
 
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for your kind words❤️ We are going back to the vet first thing in the morning and will reevaluate the situation based on what is best for her.

You are absolutely doing the right thing. ❤️
 
Hi, thank you again for the reply.

We are going back to the vet first thing in the morning and will reevaluate the situation based on what is best for her at this time. I went through a difficult loss almost a year ago with one of my other guinea pigs so I am always going to put their welfare and comfort first❤️

All the best! I am sorry that you are facing another rather traumatic loss.
It is never something that you wish on anypig or anybody in the first place.
 
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