Dominance problem

sherlock

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I have two.boars 1year + ... they love each other one minute then one humps the other head then hell.breaks loose . On and off love/ hate each more dominant one wants his bed and then pushes other out of his its not fair
i was wondering if putting a metal panel(off a other c&c cage down the middle wud work or be ok . They get on so well 90% of time then there is random spats i am a first time piggie owner and i want to.do whats best for them xx
 
It’s totally normal for the dominant pig to get the bed of his choice. It may not seem fair to us but it is perfectly normal in piggy society.
Dominance such as humping is also very normal and does not require you to step in in any way.

Where there is normal dominance and a perfectly functioning relationship and hierarchy - no, it is not ok to put a divider between them. There is no need, and doing so can actually ruin their bond for no reason.

Can you describe what you mean by ‘all hell breaking loose’?

If they are actually fighting, injuring each other and are very unhappy - then in this circumstance you must permanently separate them.

Can you tell us the measurements of their cage?
Do you have multiple if ever resource in the cage?
Do all hides have two exits?

 
It’s totally normal for the dominant pig to get the bed of his choice. It may not seem fair to us but it is perfectly normal in piggy society.
Dominance such as humping is also very normal and does not require you to step in in any way.

Where there is normal dominance and a perfectly functioning relationship and hierarchy - no, it is not ok to put a divider between them. There is no need, and doing so can actually ruin their bond for no reason.

Can you describe what you mean by ‘all hell breaking loose’?

If they are actually fighting, injuring each other and are very unhappy - then in this circumstance you must permanently separate them.

Can you tell us the measurements of their cage?
Do you have multiple if ever resource in the cage?
Do all hides have two exits?

It’s totally normal for the dominant pig to get the bed of his choice. It may not seem fair to us but it is perfectly normal in piggy society.
Dominance such as humping is also very normal and does not require you to step in in any way.

Where there is normal dominance and a perfectly functioning relationship and hierarchy - no, it is not ok to put a divider between them. There is no need, and doing so can actually ruin their bond for no reason.

Can you describe what you mean by ‘all hell breaking loose’?

If they are actually fighting, injuring each other and are very unhappy - then in this circumstance you must permanently separate them.

Can you tell us the measurements of their cage?
Do you have multiple if ever resource in the cage?
Do all hides have two exits?


They chase and chatter and one seems scared and left out on fleece rather than in hidey we have the litter box in hidey is that ok .... sorry its my first time having them there is no blood shed or injury its just sad to see ( again its cos.we are not used to it never having pets before got them for my 10 year old son and we abs adore them.but get upset when it seems there sad x there cage is 4x2 c& c cage x
 
please do not separate this sounds fairly normal for young males. Make sure you scatter all foods, have two hides with two exits. I would make your cage bigger 5 x 2 C&C would be better or go even one bigger if you have the space. they are still teenagers until 15 months and as they get older they should calm down a little. just normal hormone spikes are being played out here
 
Seem to be more a fast chasing bit upsetting to.see they normally get on well bar a few spats I'm a first time piggie owner still getting used to things
 
It all sounds to be fine and normal behaviour.

Their cage is a little on the small side for two teen boars - they would be better in a 5x2 c&c.
Boys really do need a lot of room
 
I’ve merged your two threads as it relates to the same issue.

As I say, seeing dominance is very normal and isn’t a worry.

Are you noticing the chasing at any specific time?

With boars there are some key things you need to do:
- always handle with the dominant piggy first. It’s important you don’t go to the submissive first because it can upset the dominant and make him feel like he needs to reinforce his position in the hierarchy thus causing more dominance
- ensure you have two hay areas; at least two hides. They need to be sure they don’t ever have to share or compete for resources
- scatter feed. Throw veg and pellets directly into piles of hay or loose around the whole cage floor. This encourages foraging and keeps them occupied; but it also means the dominant can’t food hog.

- an important one is around cleaning out.
Don’t clean the whole cage in one go. Only ever clean half at a time - so if you use fleece have two smaller fleeces in the cage at one go. Remove one side on one day and the other side another day.
If you remove all bedding in one go then you totally remove scent. That means they don’t feel like it is their territory and will cause increased dominance while they reestablish.

 
Sorry, I hadn't read the other thread. All advice given is good and always consistent. In my experience it was amazing how much difference the cage cleaning advice made, even now I'm thoughtful about leaving "smelly" things in the cage when I change fleeces even though my boys are 2.
 
I’ve merged your two threads as it relates to the same issue.

As I say, seeing dominance is very normal and isn’t a worry.

Are you noticing the chasing at any specific time?

With boars there are some key things you need to do:
- always handle with the dominant piggy first. It’s important you don’t go to the submissive first because it can upset the dominant and make him feel like he needs to reinforce his position in the hierarchy thus causing more dominance
- ensure you have two hay areas; at least two hides. They need to be sure they don’t ever have to share or compete for resources
- scatter feed. Throw veg and pellets directly into piles of hay or loose around the whole cage floor. This encourages foraging and keeps them occupied; but it also means the dominant can’t food hog.

- an important one is around cleaning out.
Don’t clean the whole cage in one go. Only ever clean half at a time - so if you use fleece have two smaller fleeces in the cage at one go. Remove one side on one day and the other side another day.
If you remove all bedding in one go then you totally remove scent. That means they don’t feel like it is their territory and will cause increased dominance while they reestablish.

Thank u so much xx
 
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