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Dental/ear Infection Advice

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I've just got back from the vets with my girl Lottie, for the past two days she has been responding painfully to ear scratches which she usually loves, she would tilt her head and shy/jerk away in pain. I suspected an ear infection but two vets looked at her today and couldn't see anything in the ear, there's no infection or debris stuck, so now we're looking at a dental issue. They looked in her mouth with the special tool but as she had food stuck in there they couldn't see well enough, her front teeth are perfectly straight and in perfect condition though, no lumps or bumps either.

Lottie does have some symptoms that are caused by dental issues, she's struggling to maintain her weight without help for one. She began losing weight 5 months ago, but she had hormonal problems which as a result led to her having a spay surgery 2 months ago by Simon, he looked at her teeth and said they were fine, but things can change so quickly with piggies. I pieced together that the constant chasing/mounting and hyperactivity caused by the hormones made her lose weight, and with having surgery 2 months ago she's still recovering and it'll take some time to get her back to full fitness. It was just this new symptom, the ear pain that made me take her in today.

The pain she's having makes it hard to tell whether it's her inner ear or her jaw, it's right behind her ear/along the jaw line, where they connect. I have an ear infection too at the moment and it does make eating very painful and my pain is in the same place as hers around the jaw, (funnily enough it's actually the same ear we both have affected!) so I understand why she is pickier with her food and struggling to eat normal chunks of vegetables, pellets and even fluffy tops from hay, she tends to hesitate with these and eat slower, like it hurts to open her mouth, I have the same thing.

My vet has given her two days of sulfatrim and loxicom but this was only because I asked to try it first, they want to sedate her and take an xray of her teeth. Obviously I am absolutely terrified of my guinea pigs having any kind of sedation, but the vet assured me it would only be for a short time and she'd only be sedated enough to lay still on her side for the xray and she'd be woken up again straight away, it's not a full anaesthetic with tubes etc.

I am just seriously scared about this procedure and my vet wants to do it on Monday, I haven't booked it yet as I wanted some advice from others first.

I really do still think it's an issue with her ear, I sincerely hope it's not her teeth, that would absolutely kill me for her to be a dental pig, she's incredibly special to me, not like any other pig. I'm very protective of her and if I lost her by agreeing to sedation it would destroy me and 20k other fans of her on Facebook, putting her through it isn't something I can take lightly.

I lost Lottie's mother 2 months ago, she was also spayed (ovarian cysts) but died the next day, I do not want to lose my pride and joy, the sole reason for my success, the love of my life and the only thing I have to remember my sweet Tizzie. I am so bloody torn.

Please can someone weigh in on this situation, should I opt for sedation/xray? I would love her to have an xray, it's purely the sedation part that is worrying me. I went in thinking she just had an ear infection and antibiotics will cure her, but now with it being a likely dental problem I just feel heartbroken.
 
Tagging in @furryfriends (TEAS) for you to help advise. Our vet used to check our piggies back teeth with using a whiff of gas, so she was lightly under. What type of sedation is your vet planning to use?
 
Cookie used to had gas regularly to burr her back teeth and various xrays but as with everything there are risks. She however always recovered well and quickly
 
Cookie used to had gas regularly to burr her back teeth and various xrays but as with everything there are risks. She however always recovered well and quickly
Well Lottie was spayed and she coped perfectly, like nothing happened, so does that mean she's more likely to do okay with a light sedative? She is only 1.5 years old too
 
There are no guarantee's with any procedure unfortunately. A gas sedative is normally well tolerated in our experience. Cookie had at least 6 and Vimto a few also

The xray would I presume be looking for any jaw issues such as arthritis or root problems

Is she any better with the metacam?
 
i would ask your vet what he is going to use.Simon is the best with teeth,such a dilema for you.i love Lottie,especially when she climbs the stairs.:hug:
 
What are they hoping to see on an xray? Generally xrays don't show anything, which is why Simon doesn't xray when dealing with dental issues.
I honestly don't know, we have a dental pig called Theodore, you may remember him, they did the same with him too and found he had a root issue from an xray and this caused his pain, but my vets are not guinea pig savvy so I honestly don't know what to believe or do. I've said before though that travel is an issue so I can't see my favourite piggy vets like Simon or Vedra. I have to educate myself and take advice from more experienced owners like all of you here in order to do my best for my piggies.

My gut tells me it's an ear issue, I would take that over dental problems any day, I can't tell if my gut is right and we should wait it out or if I'm just scared and in denial after the hell we've been through with Theodore. I am hoping she improves over the weekend and won't need the xray at all, but only giving 2 days for the antibiotic to work doesn't seem long enough to me.
 
There are no guarantee's with any procedure unfortunately. A gas sedative is normally well tolerated in our experience. Cookie had at least 6 and Vimto a few also

The xray would I presume be looking for any jaw issues such as arthritis or root problems

Is she any better with the metacam?
She had her first dose a few hours ago so it's a bit early to tell to be honest, but I can say she hasn't stopped eating since she came home lol. She seems to eat fine, she's just picky about what she eats and what time she eats if you know what I mean, one hour she's eating for England and the next she seems depressed, sleeping and won't eat much, it's hard to explain and a bit of a mystery to me. She is undoubtedly in immense pain with this whatever it is, she cries and freaks out when you touch around her ear/jaw.
 
Lottie has been on antibiotics and metacam since Friday and she is showing really good improvement, her pain has now completely gone and her weight is 990g today where it was 950g on friday, she is back to eating pellets again which is great. I am really happy with how she is responding.

With this improvement in mind, do you think I should still let her have the sedation and xray of her teeth, or give her more time on the medication?
 
It sounds like whatever it is, is responding to the medication xx
Phewwww! So it's okay for me to phone the vet tomorrow and tell them she is improving and to hold off the xray? They wanted to see her and do it tomorrow, I've been so anxious all weekend.

I'm still concerned that it is a tooth problem and the pain relief is just taking away the pain, but I do think she needs more time, I don't want to jump into such a risky procedure when she may not need it, only when we're sure it's not an ear infection I'd consider the xray.

Do I sound unreasonable lol?
 
I just weighed Lottie again tonight, she is 1004g, holy pig! The last time she weighed 1000g+ was 6 months ago (she was 1030g at 1 year old), before she had hormonal problems and needed to be spayed, she dropped down to 820g. This whole time I've been syringe feeding her, feeding her high calorie food, special hay etc, just to maintain her weight at 950g, I was working so hard and felt like she would never reach this weight again. Turns out she just needed medication, she has gained 50g+ in 2 days!

I am so damn proud of her, she can't stop eating pellets now and did well with her veggies tonight, she even tried the 'disgusting' bell peppers for the first time! I cannot contain my pride lol! My baby <3
 
That's sounds wonderful, congratulations on the two of you! I'd have been very proud too :)

And Lottie is a very lucky piggy to have you in her corner
 
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