Specialist Dental Abscess/jaw Arthritis

[Pebble]

I am sorry if you felt you had to "justify" your decisions following my last post. It wasn;t intended that way
My own vet has the same exotic experience and quallfications as John - they are "next-door neighbours" - and I know all the vets of this calibre like to speak to each other and swap notes..because like us they too are still learning....hence my suiggestions.
I will bow out now.
x

 

[furryfriends (TEAS)]

You've got an amazing vet and you're doing a fantastic job too. However, if at any point you feel it would be beneficial to bring Daisy to see Simon and I can help in any way, then please don't feel you can't ask. Please keep us updated, and I really hope you can get a good result with Daisy.

 

[furryfriends (TEAS)]

I hope your appointment goes well today x

 

[Littlepig&co]

Daisy unfortunately has an abscess in her jaw. She's going to have It drained under anaesthetic on Monday. My poor girl I can see this will be something that I will lose her too eventually. It's so unfair.

 

[piggyfan]

Daisy unfortunately has an abscess in her jaw. She's going to have It drained under anaesthetic on Monday. My poor girl I can see this will be something that I will lose her too eventually. It's so unfair.

I'm really sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you. X

 

[Littlepig&co]

I'm really sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you. X

Thanks Gigi, the prognosis does not sound very good at all. They won't be able to remove the abscess completely because of where it is; there is a risk that it will cause the jaw bone to break what with the arthritis and infection It is so unfair. I expected my girlies (Daisy and Ruby) to have a long life of 6-7 years but it isn't going to happen. Only lost Ruby just over two months ago. Now Daisy's life is inevitably going to be shortened.

There is no way I am having any more animals for a very long time after this lot. It has broke my heart, we've been so unlucky, they've been so unlucky. I lost my Bella (rabbit) to heart disease in March 2013, Flopsy (other rabbit) to Kidney disease and heart disease in October 2014, Ruby piggy suddenly to heart failure in December 2014. Now Daisy is poorly so soon after. It is emotionally draining, especially when you love them so much. When I heard that Daisy had an abscess today I went all numb, as I know just how serious they are and that there isn't a good prognosis.

 

[piggyfan]

You really have had such a terrible time recently with your little ones. I am so sorry and I totally understand how heartbreaking it is when they leave us. If

Thanks Gigi, the prognosis does not sound very good at all. They won't be able to remove the abscess completely because of where it is; there is a risk that it will cause the jaw bone to break what with the arthritis and infection It is so unfair. I expected my girlies (Daisy and Ruby) to have a long life of 6-7 years but it isn't going to happen. Only lost Ruby just over two months ago. Now Daisy's life is inevitably going to be shortened.

There is no way I am having any more animals for a very long time after this lot. It has broke my heart, we've been so unlucky, they've been so unlucky. I lost my Bella (rabbit) to heart disease in March 2013, Flopsy (other rabbit) to Kidney disease and heart disease in October 2014, Ruby piggy suddenly to heart failure in December 2014. Now Daisy is poorly so soon after. It is emotionally draining, especially when you love them so much. When I heard that Daisy had an abscess today I went all numb, as I know just how serious they are and that there isn't a good prognosis.

you ever need to talk then I am here.

 

[Littlepig&co]

You really have had such a terrible time recently with your little ones. I am so sorry and I totally understand how heartbreaking it is when they leave us. If


you ever need to talk then I am here.

Thank you, Do you know if I am able to change the title of this thread? want to changed it too Dental abscess/Jaw arthritis. I know on other forums you can but I don't seem to be able to on here.

 

[piggyfan]

I will tag @BossHogg for you to ask him if he will change it.

 

[jenniferanneharris]

So sorry to hear this You have had such a tough time lately bless you.

 

[furryfriends (TEAS)]

Thanks Gigi, the prognosis does not sound very good at all. They won't be able to remove the abscess completely because of where it is; there is a risk that it will cause the jaw bone to break what with the arthritis and infection It is so unfair. I expected my girlies (Daisy and Ruby) to have a long life of 6-7 years but it isn't going to happen. Only lost Ruby just over two months ago. Now Daisy's life is inevitably going to be shortened.

There is no way I am having any more animals for a very long time after this lot. It has broke my heart, we've been so unlucky, they've been so unlucky. I lost my Bella (rabbit) to heart disease in March 2013, Flopsy (other rabbit) to Kidney disease and heart disease in October 2014, Ruby piggy suddenly to heart failure in December 2014. Now Daisy is poorly so soon after. It is emotionally draining, especially when you love them so much. When I heard that Daisy had an abscess today I went all numb, as I know just how serious they are and that there isn't a good prognosis.

I have had a lot of piggies come here with abscesses. We have very successfully dealt with jaw, tooth root, retrobulbar and other abscesses. The key to the success we have had has been using the antibiotic Zithromax, as well as lancing and draining. I really hope there will be a good outcome for Daisy. xx

 

[BossHogg]

I will tag @BossHogg for you to ask him if he will change it.

Done.

 

[flintstones]

Hi,

I'm sorry it's not better news for Daisy but it really isn't all doom and gloom. My Fred had a jaw abscess, it took a while to convince my vet that Zithromax was the way forward. Thankfully he found a vet paper that said over 90% of abscesses in rabbits responded well to Zithromax and spoke to a colleague who also said Zithromax was very successful.

Before we tried Zithromax we had Fred on continuous antibiotics for around 6 weeks. Zithromax was our last chance unfortunately for Fred by this point his guts where somewhat irritated. I had to syringe feed him right though the course but he recovered well. He's still here two years on, minus one incisor which was removed due to the abscess.

His abscess was massive.

This is it after it was drained.

Keep us updated on little Daisy. Good Luck Monday!

 

[Littlepig&co]

Hi,

I'm sorry it's not better news for Daisy but it really isn't all doom and gloom. My Fred had a jaw abscess, it took a while to convince my vet that Zithromax was the way forward. Thankfully he found a vet paper that said over 90% of abscesses in rabbits responded well to Zithromax and spoke to a colleague who also said Zithromax was very successful.

Before we tried Zithromax we had Fred on continuous antibiotics for around 6 weeks. Zithromax was our last chance unfortunately for Fred by this point his guts where somewhat irritated. I had to syringe feed him right though the course but he recovered well. He's still here two years on, minus one incisor which was removed due to the abscess.

His abscess was massive.

This is it after it was drained.

Keep us updated on little Daisy. Good Luck Monday!

Hi thank you very much for sharing your success story, it is a relief to know that Fred is okay now. How does he cope now? has it ever recurred in that time? does he need dentals?

Wow that is quite a wound! Should i be expecting Daisy to come back looking similar?

 

[Tbag]

You have certainly been through the mill, you have my sympathies - it is certainly the downside to having animals.

Try to stay positive, even though it doesn't sound like a great diagnosis she could surprise you yet, it might be months before the abcess starts affecting her arthritis (and vice versa) yet.

Thinking of you and Daisy.

 

[flintstones]

Fred used to get regular Dentals but he was far to flighty to have them without Sedation. My vet used to give him a mild sedative (valium).

Fred went back for his check up when my vet noticed a small lump. He aspirated it and within days it was huge. My vet didn't drain it straight away which is possibly why it grew so big. We tried numerous antibiotics before draining, it was then lanced. I flushed it for weeks it healed well but then returned.

Fred's abscess was in the jaw and the vet suggested removing his incisors. Thankfully we didn't do this after the abscess was drained it returned. He then had his incisor removed and was put on a course on Zithromax - the Zithromax and incisor removal solved his abscess problems.

Fred doesn't even need regular Dentals now. Before the abscess he was having regular teeth problems, he hasn't needed any Dentals since the abscess cleared up two years ago.

 

[Littlepig&co]

I have some slight concerns/worries..
Basically I am concerned about if Daisy is pooing or not. I have had her in for over an hour separately so she can eat and chose what she wants to nibble at. She is in a basket with hay in. But there has been no poo's. I don't know who's poo is who's when they are in the cage. I am becoming worried/paranoid now about whether or not she is pooing. She is eating, well picking at bits. She has had some Parsley, some grated carrot and some mashed pellets. She is still in the basket on her own now so I can monitor her and give her the chance to eat in her own time. I just want to see some poo!

I am beyond worried. She looks so thin to me, the nasty abscess is huge and I am worried that she won't make it though the operation. She is so precious to me. I just do not know what to do for the best.

Here she is eating her mashed pellets a little while ago:

You can just about see the swelling there; excuse her messy chin with med stains etc on.

That sloppy brown stuff in the corner is mashed pellets and not diarrhea - just in case you panicked.

 

[Littlepig&co]

Update - We have poo albeit it being a bit wet and not properly formed.

 

[Littlepig&co]

Daisy is home John sounded really positive about it, the abscess was lanced and its not too big of a wound. It should hopefully not come back. I asked him about if she needed another antibiotic but he said lancing is enough plus she's on the Septrin; which will prevent it from spreading. We have to bathe it daily with boiled salt water. We've got an appointment to go back in a weeks time. fingers crossed that it won't come back! Luckily her teeth are all nice and fine - her dental was 3 weeks ago. So a relief all round there.

 

[Freela]

I know it's stressful, but an abscess doesn't have to be a fatal diagnosis. I lost one pig due to an abscess because my vet was less than ideally knowledgeable (and I was also less than ideally knowledgeable as a new owner at the time), but I also nursed Sundae through the recovery process from lancing and draining a large jaw abscess and she made a full recovery, and I know that many on the board have also had good outcomes with jaw abscesses. Sundae's abscess was quite a mess at first, but ultimately she healed up very nicely and it's now been 2.5 years or more with no further dental problems or abscesses. Lots of luck to you and Daisy and hoping for a great outcome like Sundae has had!

 

[jenniferanneharris]

Daisy is home John sounded really positive about it, the abscess was lanced and its not too big of a wound. It should hopefully not come back. I asked him about if she needed another antibiotic but he said lancing is enough plus she's on the Septrin; which will prevent it from spreading. We have to bathe it daily with boiled salt water. We've got an appointment to go back in a weeks time. fingers crossed that it won't come back! Luckily her teeth are all nice and fine - her dental was 3 weeks ago. So a relief all round there.

Great news

 

[flintstones]

Glad to hear Daisy is recovering well. :-)

 

[furryfriends (TEAS)]

Lovely news! x