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Combating suspected hyperthyroidism and other possibilities - diabetes, kidney disease?

Hunt76

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Around a month ago, I rescued a younger boar (around a year and a half old, if that) from a reputable rescue. He had a clean bill of health, and was doing super well. He’s been a smaller boy as long as I’ve had him, between 870g and 900g. He developed an abscess under his jaw and went to the vet, where he was prescribed antibiotics, pain meds, topical antimicrobials, and an anti-itch cream for the wound it created. All was going well until recently, when he began losing weight pretty rapidly. I suspected it was related to his rear teeth, so I began syringe feeding Critical Care (a friend gave me what was left of hers from a prior pig) and he returned to the vet where an abscess was noted to still be under his jaw and his rear teeth a bit long. They drained the abscess, filed his teeth and prescribed pain meds. His appetite clearly returned, so I thought we were in the clear.

Unfortunately, he continues to lose weight in rapid fashion. He’s been eating and drinking like a horse - he literally drank 3/4 of a fairly large water bottle overnight and, between the two of the boars, damn near cleaned out two hay feeders which is uncharacteristic for them. Besides his ravenous hunger and thirst, he’s acting pretty much completely normal - as lively and spunky as he’s ever been with me. He’s down to about 680g, despite my best efforts to the contrary, which can’t be healthy for him.

The excessive thirst screams diabetes to me, but he’s not acting lethargic in any way so I’d be surprised if he’s hypo- or hyperglycemic. There is a palpable mass in his throat, seemingly typical of hyperthyroidism, but it’s hard to tell if this is a ventral cervical mass from hyperthyroidism or the preexisting abscess. If it’s not the abscess, the abscess is pretty much gone.

I called the vet again - a small animal/exotic vet almost an hour away from me - and she said she suspects hyperthyroidism, and an appointment was made for next Thursday. I don’t know if we have that kind of time, though, without treatment. I’m going to call in the morning and try to move it up.

In the meantime, I ran out of Critical Care tonight and no pet store I’ve been to has had it in stock, and the local vet wouldn’t give it to me unless it were prescribed to my boar - but they couldn’t get him in for an appointment for two weeks or so. I’ve ordered it online, but it won’t arrive until Monday. I really don’t know how else to combat this weight loss until I can get him the help he so clearly needs. Maybe oats?

Is there anyone experienced in this area who can be of any assistance? I really want a positive outcome for this boy, especially because he’s so young and otherwise happy and healthy. He’s also recently bonded to my older boar who’s had a pretty traumatic history with other pigs before I rescued him so, as much as I want the new boar to live for my sake and his own, I really don’t want my old man to have finally found a friend only to lose him so suddenly.

Thank you all so much.
 
Around a month ago, I rescued a younger boar (around a year and a half old, if that) from a reputable rescue. He had a clean bill of health, and was doing super well. He’s been a smaller boy as long as I’ve had him, between 870g and 900g. He developed an abscess under his jaw and went to the vet, where he was prescribed antibiotics, pain meds, topical antimicrobials, and an anti-itch cream for the wound it created. All was going well until recently, when he began losing weight pretty rapidly. I suspected it was related to his rear teeth, so I began syringe feeding Critical Care (a friend gave me what was left of hers from a prior pig) and he returned to the vet where an abscess was noted to still be under his jaw and his rear teeth a bit long. They drained the abscess, filed his teeth and prescribed pain meds. His appetite clearly returned, so I thought we were in the clear.

Unfortunately, he continues to lose weight in rapid fashion. He’s been eating and drinking like a horse - he literally drank 3/4 of a fairly large water bottle overnight and, between the two of the boars, damn near cleaned out two hay feeders which is uncharacteristic for them. Besides his ravenous hunger and thirst, he’s acting pretty much completely normal - as lively and spunky as he’s ever been with me. He’s down to about 680g, despite my best efforts to the contrary, which can’t be healthy for him.

The excessive thirst screams diabetes to me, but he’s not acting lethargic in any way so I’d be surprised if he’s hypo- or hyperglycemic. There is a palpable mass in his throat, seemingly typical of hyperthyroidism, but it’s hard to tell if this is a ventral cervical mass from hyperthyroidism or the preexisting abscess. If it’s not the abscess, the abscess is pretty much gone.

I called the vet again - a small animal/exotic vet almost an hour away from me - and she said she suspects hyperthyroidism, and an appointment was made for next Thursday. I don’t know if we have that kind of time, though, without treatment. I’m going to call in the morning and try to move it up.

In the meantime, I ran out of Critical Care tonight and no pet store I’ve been to has had it in stock, and the local vet wouldn’t give it to me unless it were prescribed to my boar - but they couldn’t get him in for an appointment for two weeks or so. I’ve ordered it online, but it won’t arrive until Monday. I really don’t know how else to combat this weight loss until I can get him the help he so clearly needs. Maybe oats?

Is there anyone experienced in this area who can be of any assistance? I really want a positive outcome for this boy, especially because he’s so young and otherwise happy and healthy. He’s also recently bonded to my older boar who’s had a pretty traumatic history with other pigs before I rescued him so, as much as I want the new boar to live for my sake and his own, I really don’t want my old man to have finally found a friend only to lose him so suddenly.

Thank you all so much.

Hi

You can used mushed up pellets instead as a stop gap but you need to prep the syringe.
Our new comprehensive syringe feeding and medicating guide has a chapter on how to improvise with all the practical tips: All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures


Fingers very firmly crossed for your poorly boy!
 
Hi

You can used mushed up pellets instead as a stop gap but you need to prep the syringe.
Our new comprehensive syringe feeding and medicating guide has a chapter on how to improvise with all the practical tips: All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures


Fingers very firmly crossed for your poorly boy!
I mixed Oxbow timothy-based pellets with water - only because my Science Selective grain-free pellets haven’t arrived yet - and prepped the syringe as needed. It honestly looks and smells very similar to Critical Care, but about 0.5mL of fiber ends up stuck at the end of each syringe - I imagine this is just because it runs out of water to help flush it through the syringe. So far, he’s had about 24mL per serving and we’ll be getting up to feed him every 2 hours until he can get to the vet on Monday (luckily, I was able to get his appointment moved up).
 
Hi

You can used mushed up pellets instead as a stop gap but you need to prep the syringe.
Our new comprehensive syringe feeding and medicating guide has a chapter on how to improvise with all the practical tips: All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures


Fingers very firmly crossed for your poorly boy!
Just an update: yesterday, my poorly boy returned to the vet at 624g, despite being completely happy and normal otherwise. This was actually positive, as it was the first time I’d gotten him to maintain weight overnight. He’s been passing small poops and had a few episodes of ravenous hunger and thirst, but that’s it - other than the weight loss, he’s acting fine! He actually loves being syringe fed, and has been fed Critical Care every 2 hours, around the clock. He’ll have anywhere from 18-30mL in one sitting, and often still want more! As soon as one syringe runs out, he starts searching around trying to get more. I know this might be an excessive amount but, with his weight loss, I figure I’ll get all the calories in him that I can. If he wants all the Critical Care in the world, he can have it as far as I’m concerned.

Today, he was again prescribed antibiotics and the decision was made to have his abscess surgically removed, as the palpable mass in his throat area is just the abscess and is not believed to have anything to do with hyperthyroidism. I’m very worried about this procedure, knowing that anesthesia can be a risk for guinea pigs and that he’s underweight. The plan is to anesthetize him to obtain skull x-rays and, if he’s doing well, to continue with surgery but to bail out at that point if he’s not handling it well. Like I said, I am extremely nervous to lose my boy but his current path isn’t sustainable - the risks from anesthesia pale in comparison to the risks of continuing to let him wither away, in my opinion.

I initially balked at the prospect of cultures, as they will cost almost $300 extra, but have since decided that I want them done - we need to be sure he’s getting the proper antibiotics. If I have to tap into the reserves to make that happen for him, so be it.

I’ll be taking him right to the vet Wednesday morning for surgery after I get out of work (I work night shift tomorrow). I’ll be bringing his cagemate in the carrier and, because the small animal/exotic vet I take him to is 55 minutes away from home, I’ll be staying in the parking lot while they’re tending to him. I’m very hopeful for a positive outcome as he has age, attitude and an actual small animal/exotic vet all on his side. Still, I remain nervous for the days ahead. I don’t want to lose my boy, but I know this is the right decision for him.
 
Just an update: yesterday, my poorly boy returned to the vet at 624g, despite being completely happy and normal otherwise. This was actually positive, as it was the first time I’d gotten him to maintain weight overnight. He’s been passing small poops and had a few episodes of ravenous hunger and thirst, but that’s it - other than the weight loss, he’s acting fine! He actually loves being syringe fed, and has been fed Critical Care every 2 hours, around the clock. He’ll have anywhere from 18-30mL in one sitting, and often still want more! As soon as one syringe runs out, he starts searching around trying to get more. I know this might be an excessive amount but, with his weight loss, I figure I’ll get all the calories in him that I can. If he wants all the Critical Care in the world, he can have it as far as I’m concerned.

Today, he was again prescribed antibiotics and the decision was made to have his abscess surgically removed, as the palpable mass in his throat area is just the abscess and is not believed to have anything to do with hyperthyroidism. I’m very worried about this procedure, knowing that anesthesia can be a risk for guinea pigs and that he’s underweight. The plan is to anesthetize him to obtain skull x-rays and, if he’s doing well, to continue with surgery but to bail out at that point if he’s not handling it well. Like I said, I am extremely nervous to lose my boy but his current path isn’t sustainable - the risks from anesthesia pale in comparison to the risks of continuing to let him wither away, in my opinion.

I initially balked at the prospect of cultures, as they will cost almost $300 extra, but have since decided that I want them done - we need to be sure he’s getting the proper antibiotics. If I have to tap into the reserves to make that happen for him, so be it.

I’ll be taking him right to the vet Wednesday morning for surgery after I get out of work (I work night shift tomorrow). I’ll be bringing his cagemate in the carrier and, because the small animal/exotic vet I take him to is 55 minutes away from home, I’ll be staying in the parking lot while they’re tending to him. I’m very hopeful for a positive outcome as he has age, attitude and an actual small animal/exotic vet all on his side. Still, I remain nervous for the days ahead. I don’t want to lose my boy, but I know this is the right decision for him.

Fingers very firmly crossed for your precious boy!
 
Good luck at the vets. My piggy had a tooth root abscess drained about 11 days ago. He’s on Zithromax antibiotic. Which is a very good one for abscesses. Also pain relief. I hope your vet can help your piggy. Keep us posted. Good luck. Sounds like you are doing an amazing job.
 
Fingers very firmly crossed for your precious boy!
He got up to about 730g before surgery, and did great! No abnormalities in the x-rays, then they drained and marsupialised his abscess. He’s doing real well, but the marsupialised abscess has already closed! So he’ll need to go back and have that taken care of. Other than that, though, he’s doing well!

On top of his regimen of antibiotics and painkillers, he was given nolvasan for flushing the wound as well as a curved syringe. Pretty bummed we’re going to have to make a return trip to have it opened up again, but he’s doing really well otherwise! His cagemate, usually a curmudgeonly old guy, has been exceptionally kind and calm since they got back, too, which is encouraging.
 
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