Chattering rumbling noise and swaying

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As the title says really......

I have two 4 month old boys and one of them, today, has started making a sort of growling chattering rumble noise and then sort of stamping/swaying from side to side.

Is he warning me off? It's when I approach the cage and talk to him gently .
 
It's called rumblestrutting, it's a dominance display.

I would keep a close eye on your two boars - they are going through their hormonal period and this is the time that any dominance displays/fighting will occur.
 
Hi Moomom,

Your boars are entering pubity essentially. Their relationship is about to be tested and this is a crucial stage in boar pairings.

You will see the following behaviour which is all perfectly normal:

Rumbling and rumble strutting. It's a kind of war dance. It's one of the initial stages in agression/dominance struggles and is a warning as well as a kind of posturing. This is your first signal that something may happen. It's a kind of deep purring noise with your boars moving from right to left leg.

Snorting. Your boars will come face to face with each other and snort from their noses at one another. This is another warning signal.

Circling and spraying. Your boars will each attempt to spray their scent (testosterone) on each other. It looks kind of funny as they will circle each other round and round trying to get a shot in.

Chattering. Chattering their teeth as if they were cold. This is a very aggressive response and is usually your last warning before physical violence.

There are other dominance/aggression signals too. These are all perfectly normal at their age. Male guinea pigs, like any male herd animal, are territorial. When they hit adolescence, their hormones increase and this starts to beomce a problem. It could take up until they are over a year old for this to settle down.

You must keep an eye on them. If they escalate to physical violence and draw blood, you will have to separate them. This is how a lot of boars end up in separate cages. After separation, some baors can be successfully reintroduced and end up living together again but not always.

OUr two were separated at about 5 - 6 months old and have never been able to live together since. They're now happily paired of with younger sows.

I hope this is helpful. I've been through all this myself so if you have any other questions or worries, please feel free to PM me. I'm sure everyone else on here will have good advice too. Good luck and keep us posted :)
 
It's 'rumblestrutting' and where one piggy will be asserting dominance.
The boys will be hitting the hormonal months now so working out who is top piggy - as long as the other one is submissive, they will sort it out between themselves.
Be alert to any teeth chattering as things may escalate...boys need lots of space to live happily together.
I would just keep a close eye on them both.

http://www.cavymadness.com/carelife.html
 
Thank you all. That's very helpful. The piggie that is displaying this behaviour is definitely the boss. I haven't seen any violence yet and this rumble strutting is only aimed at me! Why would this be? Is he seeing me as a threat?

One other question, will the children be in any increased danger? Will he take his frustration out on jthem and bite?

Sorry to sound dim, but I've never had piggies before :))
 
Biting is extremely rare, even to other piggies, but it does happen. A guinea pig, as far as I'm aware, will almost never diliberately bite a human. If a piggy bites, it's pretty much certain that the human inquesiotn cornered it and scared it and that was it's only defence.

A guinea pig's normal reaction to fear/stress is very simple - run away! :)

As long as your children don't try to come physically between the two baors in the event of a fight (not the noises above but an actual physical fight) then they will not be bitten.

I was once bitten by accident by one of our two. They were seriously scrapping (shortly before we had to finally separate them permanently) and I tried to break it up and got a nip on my back of all places.

The best thing to do is to have a hand towel ready at all times. If they do actually fight then just throw the towel on them and use this to pick one of them up. That way there's no chance of being accidentally bitten.

Just to reiterate, there is no risk to your children. Guinea pigs are the least aggressive animals I know. Biting each other is the last resort (and this will need to result in separation) and you'll only get bitten by accident trying to break them up.

I hope it doesn't come to that. It will only come to that if neither boar is prepared to sumbit, as happened with our two. There can only be one dominant boar (at a time). What you may find ove rthe course of their adolescence is that the position of head piggy changes/is up for grabs several times as they sort it out between them. If one of them submits then the other boar will usually mount him (it looks a little odd). If this happens, you've got a good shot of being able to keep them together.
 
Actually, I have already witnessed my dominant one trying to mount my timid one, so I may be ok. There is a massive difference between the two and Squeak, is definitely the boss. Fingers crossed it will turn out ok and thank you for taking the time to answer my post so fully.
 
Thank you all. That's very helpful. The piggie that is displaying this behaviour is definitely the boss. I haven't seen any violence yet and this rumble strutting is only aimed at me! Why would this be? Is he seeing me as a threat?

One other question, will the children be in any increased danger? Will he take his frustration out on jthem and bite?

Sorry to sound dim, but I've never had piggies before :))

You have had lots of good advice but just to answer your question about the rumble strutting at you... I have a variety of different aged boars and a couple of the teenage ones rumble strutt at anything - me very often, the food bowl, any other pig, teddy, a pile of hayrolleyes. Then they often popcorn off once the little display is over! So in other words, v common behaviour. Something is wrong if Barney Bubbles doesn't rumble every other minute.
Hope you can start to enjoy watching your boys soon as you learn more :)
 
You have had lots of good advice but just to answer your question about the rumble strutting at you... I have a variety of different aged boars and a couple of the teenage ones rumble strutt at anything - me very often, the food bowl, any other pig, teddy, a pile of hayrolleyes. Then they often popcorn off once the little display is over! So in other words, v common behaviour. Something is wrong if Barney Bubbles doesn't rumble every other minute.
Hope you can start to enjoy watching your boys soon as you learn more :)

:)):)) thanks x
 
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