Bonding two Sows

Fiona1987

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Good evening everyone 🙂,

Hopefully someone can shed some light on if this behaviour is establishing hierarchy or if it’s fighting/ unable to bond.

One of my Guinea boars passed away a couple weeks ago which left my one sow pretty lonely and she was obviously missing him.
I was lucky to have these two bond straight away and had no problems but it became quite obvious that even tho she was very young, she would be the dominant pig and he was happy to have the company.

I have now got a little Sow for her to be coupled up with and I’m at the stage of bonding. I was desperately trying to find a rescue so I could perhaps try first to see if they would make a match but unfortunately there were no suitable guineas near to where I live. Either a pair that needed to be re-homed together or much older guineas which I was reluctant to try after my past year of heartache losing my last two and because she’s only 5 months old.

My new sow is around 1 1/2 month old so very small and desperately trying to see, smell and tag along with my other one.

So far I have had them in a cage next to each other for the past 3 days. The can see each other and seem to be ok lying next to each other, eating close by and biting at the bars to try and get to one another. So far so good.
When I’ve now put them together, the older one gave the little one a groom and began to sniff her all over. She’s now following her around nose to bum and chasing her when the little one moves. But she’s also lunging at the little one with some high pitched squeals coming from the little sow. There’s no teeth chattering and not physical biting but it’s like she’s fine one moment and then puts her in her place.
Is this normal behaviour?
It has died down a little but I can’t remember it being like this before.

Thank guys.
 
Also I should note that this is happening in a big pen that isn’t their usual one and in a different place.
 
First question: Is this the first time you've put them together? If so, hang in there and know that you shouldn't separate them again unless something really goes wrong.

Thanks for replying.
Yes this is the first time in the same cage together with no divide in place.
I’m definitely not wanting to remove them unless needing as I read I shouldn’t do that.
 
Sounds normal/ok to me so far. The one time I tried to bond a new pig with an established pair, and it did NOT work, it was obvious. The two locked eyes, froze, staring at each other, both with one front paw raised, with chattering that got more and more intense till one lunged and took a mouth full of fur.

What you're describing sounds fine, if not nerve wracking for you though ❤️
 
Sounds normal/ok to me so far. The one time I tried to bond a new pig with an established pair, and it did NOT work, it was obvious. The two locked eyes, froze, staring at each other, both with one front paw raised, with chattering that got more and more intense till one lunged and took a mouth full of fur.

What you're describing sounds fine, if not nerve wracking for you though ❤️

Oh gosh, tea that does not sound good. Luckily I have nothing like that so it could be promising. Just some small lunges but more when she comes up to sniff my older ones face. The little ones so submissive there definitely isn’t any facing off.

Just hope tonight goes well 🤞🏻
 
I wanted to say I'm sorry for the loss of your boar ❤️ I just bonded a 3 month old with a bereaved 2 year old sow in November. They did a lot of chasing and chattering, lunging, but then wandering off and ignoring each other. Things worked out fine. The chasing and chattering went on close to 2 weeks as they sorted things out 🐷🐷
 
Good evening everyone 🙂,

Hopefully someone can shed some light on if this behaviour is establishing hierarchy or if it’s fighting/ unable to bond.

One of my Guinea boars passed away a couple weeks ago which left my one sow pretty lonely and she was obviously missing him.
I was lucky to have these two bond straight away and had no problems but it became quite obvious that even tho she was very young, she would be the dominant pig and he was happy to have the company.

I have now got a little Sow for her to be coupled up with and I’m at the stage of bonding. I was desperately trying to find a rescue so I could perhaps try first to see if they would make a match but unfortunately there were no suitable guineas near to where I live. Either a pair that needed to be re-homed together or much older guineas which I was reluctant to try after my past year of heartache losing my last two and because she’s only 5 months old.

My new sow is around 1 1/2 month old so very small and desperately trying to see, smell and tag along with my other one.

So far I have had them in a cage next to each other for the past 3 days. The can see each other and seem to be ok lying next to each other, eating close by and biting at the bars to try and get to one another. So far so good.
When I’ve now put them together, the older one gave the little one a groom and began to sniff her all over. She’s now following her around nose to bum and chasing her when the little one moves. But she’s also lunging at the little one with some high pitched squeals coming from the little sow. There’s no teeth chattering and not physical biting but it’s like she’s fine one moment and then puts her in her place.
Is this normal behaviour?
It has died down a little but I can’t remember it being like this before.

Thank guys.

Hi!

Please do not conduct little tester meetings and just sit it out. The baby won't come to any harm. The screaming is submission screaming and the best way to allay your own sow's fear-aggression/insecurity issues, which are in the mild range. It is hard to not interfere but you need to sit by and let them get on. Guinea pigs don't harm babies, who are too agile anyway.
Lunging is a defensive behaviour that translates as 'stay out of my personal space'. It is very often used by piggies that are insecure in themselves when meeting others.

Please have a read and look through this guide here with plenty of videos and pictures of key behaviours.
Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics

More information on specific behaviours and their meanings in these links here:
A - Z of Guinea Pig Behaviours
Dominance Behaviours In Guinea Pigs
 
Hi!

Please do not conduct little tester meetings and sit it out. The baby won't come to any harm. The screaming is submission screaming and the best way to allay your own sow's fear-aggression/insecurity issues, which are in the mild range. It is hard to not interfere but you need to sit by and let them get on. Guinea pigs don't harm babies, who are too agile anyway.
Lunging is a defensive behaviour that translates as 'stay out of my personal space'. It is very often used by piggies that are insecure in themselves when meeting others.

Please have a read and look through this guide here with plenty of videos and pictures of key behaviours.
Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics

More information on specific behaviours and their meanings in these links here:
A - Z of Guinea Pig Behaviours
Dominance Behaviours In Guinea Pigs
Thank you Wiebe 🙂
 
How was your night? Hopefully you got some sleep and the piggies are still together :)
Heya,
I’m pleased to say that last night and today have been a great success. Both seem happy in each other’s company and are currently sharing a pile of hay together.
Maybe a a little squeak every few hours but that’s all🙂.
We had a little popcorning session earlier which was sweet to see.
I’ve now just left them to bond further.
 
That’s brilliant news. Can’t wait to see some pictures if you’d like to share. I’m so sorry you lost your boar.
 
Heya,
I’m pleased to say that last night and today have been a great success. Both seem happy in each other’s company and are currently sharing a pile of hay together.
Maybe a a little squeak every few hours but that’s all🙂.
We had a little popcorning session earlier which was sweet to see.
I’ve now just left them to bond further.

Brilliant - joint poporning means that they are both very happy together and telling each other that!
Best possible outcome. :tu:
 
Hello everyone,
Sorry for the long time responding, it’s been a busy week 🙂.
As requested here are some pictures.
The bigger piggy with long hair is Margo or Margie we call her
And little one is barbs or babs now and again. Maybe a little inspiration from the good life if anyone old enough to remember it haha.

Both getting along really well and more than I had hoped for. Often finding them having a sleep together, they will only share one bowl together (somehow they prefer this than just scattered).
 

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What a gorgeous pair!

Margie has obviously dicovered her maternal instinct and has taken the little one under her wing.
 
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