Boar Going Crazy Due To Newcomers (separate Cage)

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Hi,
I have two boys, Bhalu and Puck, and have just adopted a second pair of males from my local rescue which I have set up in an adjacent cage. Puck is a super dominant pig and has been freaking out since the newcomers arrived last night. He is desperate to get to them, incessantly biting the cage bars, yelling, even attacking Bhalu! I can't even distract him with food! :( I am freaking out - have I just put Puck and Bhalu's relationship in danger by bringing in more pigs? I didn't think there would be issues if they are in separate cages. Does anyone else have a crazy hyperdominant pig and has had a similar experience? Will he calm down?
 
I am not an expert and I am sure one will be along soon, but my first question would be can they see each otehr?
If so I would start by blocking their line of sight.
Ruby (female, but also quite dominant) goes crazy if she can see the guinea pigs in the adjacent cage, and she also attacks her cage mate, bites the bars, puffs herself, up, etc.
I have leanrnt that she is fine being nearby, as long as she has no opportunity to see the other pigs.
 
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Wow, I didn't know girls could act like that! I've blocked his sight by placing a blanket over the dividing bars but he is mostly upset by the noise coming from the other cage. He flips out the most when he hears one of the newcomers rumbling. He starts angrily screaming and tearing at the cage bars. It's like his brain switches to "locate and destroy intruders" mode! Quite distressing to watch.
 
Hi,
I have two boys, Bhalu and Puck, and have just adopted a second pair of males from my local rescue which I have set up in an adjacent cage. Puck is a super dominant pig and has been freaking out since the newcomers arrived last night. He is desperate to get to them, incessantly biting the cage bars, yelling, even attacking Bhalu! I can't even distract him with food! :( I am freaking out - have I just put Puck and Bhalu's relationship in danger by bringing in more pigs? I didn't think there would be issues if they are in separate cages. Does anyone else have a crazy hyperdominant pig and has had a similar experience? Will he calm down?

Split Bhalu and Puck overnight to give Puck a chance to calm down and get his bearings again. His reaction is not unique although it is very strong. Any tensions always come down between members of group when there are terrotiry or bonding issues. I see a similar initial reaction between my various "husboars" whenever I introduce a new one into a piggy room although it is thankfully generally much milder. Things should calm down over time.

Just make sure that always you feed, clean and handle Puck first as the top bar in the room (which he obviously considers his very own territory. I would also recommend to keep the other boys out of line of sight at all times.
 
Thanks Wiebke. I'm at work currently worrying about what Puck might be up to... He and Bhalu are practically free range in my apartment as I usually just leave their cage open so this is probably why he thinks the whole apartment is "his". I do hope he calms down... I feel so bad for sweet, gentle Bhalu who always has to put up with Puck's volatile moods. I'll consider splitting them if necessary but they usually both hate this!
Would neutering Puck help at all? I know this forum generally advises that neutering doesn't change behaviour but he is one testosterone-laden troublemaker!
 
Thanks Wiebke. I'm at work currently worrying about what Puck might be up to... He and Bhalu are practically free range in my apartment as I usually just leave their cage open so this is probably why he thinks the whole apartment is "his". I do hope he calms down... I feel so bad for sweet, gentle Bhalu who always has to put up with Puck's volatile moods. I'll consider splitting them if necessary but they usually both hate this!
Would neutering Puck help at all? I know this forum generally advises that neutering doesn't change behaviour but he is one testosterone-laden troublemaker!

To be honest, no, neutering will not change his personality and behaviour. A lot of the testosterone is actually secreted via the urine (hence the spray fests), and that doesn't stop with neutering.

Nor does neutering calm down a piggy instantly - my 6 months old Nye was as hormone juicy as any unneutered boar of his age and went through all the typical phases of puberty despite his neutering op. I had him only neutered because most of my piggies are sows, and the risk of an accidental encounter is always there.

The good news is that the testosterone output generally slows down somewhat when a boar reaches adulthood until it pretty much fizzles out in old age. However, the general attitude and outlook on life will never change, as my dominant boar Hywel (who was neutered because he bullied any boar he was tried with) is proof of - Hywel went on to happily bully some of his wives throughout his life and he was certainly upset when I started to introduce other husboars into the household. But even Hywel mellowed considerably once he was about 5 years old or so.

Neutering can cap some of the very worst excess, but you have to consider whether the operation is worth it, as it is not as effective as you might wish, nor is the effect instant.

Tips:
- either divide (different rooms) or time-share the roaming areas and make sure that the boars cannot meet under any circumstances.
In your case, the first option is likely the better one to prevent Puck from venting his frustration on Bhalu too much and to give Bhalu a chance to get away from him. But you have to best look a connecting door before you leave and also make sure that there is barrier to prevent Puck from getting into the other piggies' room when you are around.
The other option is to time share with alternating days, but that is going to mean some major outrage over the scent marking from the group in the first weeks until Puck gets used to the arrangement. it has the advantage that there is no risk of accidental meetings, but it may take more time for Puck to accept it.

- keep the cages and boars out of sight of each other and ideally on different levels, so Puck cannot get at the other cage physically.

- Puck comes always first. It is important that you observe the hierarchy, too, especially with very dominant piggies.
 
OK Wiebke, thanks so much for your advice. It really upsets me to see my furbabies behaving aggressively towards each other so I really appreciate the reminder that I need to respect their instinctual social behaviour and different personalities and create an environment which allows them all to be happy. I'll try to find a way to elevate the new boys' cage to give my little tyrant back "his" floorspace!
 
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