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Bloat Recovery and Feeding

LilJandSparrow

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Hi everyone,
I’ve been a lurker on the forum for a few years and I’d like to have some people’s opinions and experiences on dealing with bloat.

Last week, our single boar Lammy was PTS, he lived in the same room as my current boar duo - Little J and Sparrow. They often spoke to each other and were friendly through the bars, and on the day he passed we noticed LJ was quieter than usual but put it down to grieving.

Fast forward a few days and he was hiding away, not eating very much and hunched up so we took him to the vets.

He had an xray which revealed that he had bloat , as well as a small kidney stone. Our vets contacted John Chitty on our behalf to ask for advice and ask if the stone could’ve caused the bloat. He said the two were unrelated and suggested IV fluids and pain meds.

Since Tuesday, LJ has been at the vets 9-6 receiving fluids and pain medication every day. We are also giving him cisapride in the evenings and critical care. We’ve been massaging his belly, getting him to move about and he seems so much brighter in himself.

He hasn’t lost any weight, he is now laying comfortably, is more alert, chirping again. But he is still hiding away and shows interest in food, takes a small bite, and then drops it again.

However, he willingly takes the critical care and actually puts the syringe in his mouth himself, and was begging for food last evening.

We thought it could perhaps be his teeth, but his x-rays did not show any deeper issues with the teeth, and he had a full dental examination which showed one slightly overgrown molar but not enough to have any sort of significant impact.

Has anyone had a similar issue with their guineas? Our vet is going to contact John Chitty again for his advice, because LJ seems well otherwise but he just can’t/won’t eat food on his own.
 
Whereabouts was the stone located on the x-ray. Stones can cause pain and sometimes blockages which can make piggies reluctant to eat enough
 
ive a current piggie called Harry,whom was neutered 8 weeks ago,unfortunatley he sustained awful injuries after a fight with his then male companion.bites to the flanks,down to the ribs,front teeth knocked out.since then he has been having bloat and pain in his sides. He has been seen by Kim at the C & R vets.treated for a uti and bloat.forward 10 days and he is still the same.asseament is that he has either a kidney/ureathral stone or kidnety disease.the options are to xray,but either findings will not change the treatment plan.so opted for medical treatment which is loxicom 0.5mgs twice aday,emprid 1ml twice aday,review in 3 months or before if Harry changes sypmtoms,Kim is certain it is not a bladder stone.i month ago Zak who is 3years old,presented with lerthargy,not eating,....syringe fed him overnight.took him to my local exotic vet who xrayed zak.he had kidney stones in his left kidney,what looked like one in his right.i was offered a nephrectomy ....but the prognosis was poor.so i decided for myself and Zak it was kinder to PTS.i believe each diagnosis needs to be done on the prevailing symptoms and diagnosis ,what you feel is best for your piggie.i agree with the above posters stones are very painful,that can cause lack of eating which can lead to gas in the digestive system,which seems to be the case with Harry i hope you find a good way forward.xx
 
Hi and welcome

Here is our bloat care information: Digestive Disorders: Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating

When dealing with a persistent bloating problem, it can be sometimes difficult to work out whether it is primary or secondary (i.e. a side effect of another ongoing health issue. Primary bloat, and especially severe bloat, can be difficult to treat. It is also not a one-off but can flare up for weeks. A secondary bloat means that you can only get on top of it if the real cause is being dealt with - which is not quite easy in the case of a kidney stone. But kidney stones can be very painful and can impact on the appetite and on the gut.

Picking up food and dropping it could hint at a brewing dental issue like a dental root abscess that is not showing up yet but is making itself felt. It can sometimes take several weeks to manifest, as I know from my Hywel. But we can only guess.

It is however great that LJ is a lot better in himself. Have you tried offering mushed up pellets and a little (dry) fresh herb or some grass blades. always start with syringe feeding, then offer something else and finish with more feed. The syringe feed may kick the appetite.
 
I recently had a fairly similar experience with my pig Frank. He suddenly stopped eating and going potty. He went to the vets and got fluids and pain relievers and gut stimulant for his severe bloat and is being fed critical care three times a day. Slowly he’s making progress. At first, I thought he was having a tooth problem because he wouldn’t hold pellets or even carrot in his mouth. But his sudden loss of interest was why he was almost spitting out his food. The x rays showed no problems with his teeth, just bloat. He is slowly slowly improving, I hope both our pigs are able to make a full recovery. :) good luck!
 
I recently had a fairly similar experience with my pig Frank. He suddenly stopped eating and going potty. He went to the vets and got fluids and pain relievers and gut stimulant for his severe bloat and is being fed critical care three times a day. Slowly he’s making progress. At first, I thought he was having a tooth problem because he wouldn’t hold pellets or even carrot in his mouth. But his sudden loss of interest was why he was almost spitting out his food. The x rays showed no problems with his teeth, just bloat. He is slowly slowly improving, I hope both our pigs are able to make a full recovery. :) good luck!

Has your vet checked the mouth for potential oral thrush (fungal candida infection in the mouth); it can make swallowing very difficult and cause symptoms similar to a dental problem?
 
Hi everyone, thank you for your replies.
Unfortunately Little J had to be PTS today as his breathing was quite laboured and he was rejecting food, and the bloat had started to come back :(
 
Hi everyone, thank you for your replies.
Unfortunately Little J had to be PTS today as his breathing was quite laboured and he was rejecting food, and the bloat had started to come back :(

BIG HUGS

I am so sorry. Severe bloat is one of the nastiest things a piggy can come down with; I have lost a few of my own to it over the years.
You have made the right decision and don't have to feel guilty or like you have failed Little J in any way.

Here is some very helpful information what you can do for his mate and for yourself now and in the coming days: Death, Dying, Terminal Illness, Grieving and Bereaved Companions: Information and Support for Owners and Their Children
 
Hi everyone, thank you for your replies.
Unfortunately Little J had to be PTS today as his breathing was quite laboured and he was rejecting food, and the bloat had started to come back :(
I’m so sorry to hear that. May he Rest In Peace. It was the right thing to do, I know it’s hard losing a pet. The connections you make with them can’t compare to anything else.
 
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