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Bladder stone removal but failing guts

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So my little Sweetie got a bladder stone removed yesterday, got her home last night. Everything seemed fine, she was eating a little (still very very drowsy)

This morning there were 0 poops in her pen, so I called the vet and explained they gave me an appointment at 3:30. I went in and the vet listened to her stomach and said he can't hear her guts moving. He gave her a injection to stimulate her guts in hopes to get them to move. We got sent away with critical care and told to come in tomorrow morning to see if there is any change.

She is still very bright in herself, just not wanting to eat veggies or anything. I will be up all night syringing when possible.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and had them recover?
 
If she is not eating hay, then she needs to have 60-90ml of syringe feed in a 24 hour period. I'll add in a link detailing syringe feeding and GI stasis.
Weigh her daily, at the same time each day, so you know she is getting enough. If she loses weight then you need to syringe feed more often. She may only take a little at a time, which means you will have to syringe feed frequently to get enough into her.

Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
Digestive Disorders: Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating

I hope she is ok
 
So my little Sweetie got a bladder stone removed yesterday, got her home last night. Everything seemed fine, she was eating a little (still very very drowsy)

This morning there were 0 poops in her pen, so I called the vet and explained they gave me an appointment at 3:30. I went in and the vet listened to her stomach and said he can't hear her guts moving. He gave her a injection to stimulate her guts in hopes to get them to move. We got sent away with critical care and told to come in tomorrow morning to see if there is any change.

She is still very bright in herself, just not wanting to eat veggies or anything. I will be up all night syringing when possible.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and had them recover?

Hi!

You always see a gap in the poos after an operation because there is a passage of time when they do not eat from before the op until recovery, and then at first only little; that is reflected in the poo out a day or two afterwards. But as long as a piggy is will to eat, you can be assured that the internal food factory conveyor belt is still running.

In your case, with GI stasis, the conveyor belt has stopped completely. Your piggy doesn't want to take on any food because they cannot process it. You will have to continue with the gut stimulants until the gut is back to working normally. In most cases, the gut bounces back pretty quickly and a piggy is back to normal within a couple of days. Sometimes it can take longer. You just have to hang on in there. In your case, it is most likely caused by an adverse reaction to GA; it can sadly happen.

It is tough; I have had a rather memorable week of it with my Pili Pala to get her through her severe GI stasis. But it was worth it as she had another year of life and hung in there until coming up to her 6th birthday despite developing an increasing rat-tail of more unusual health issues. Considering her truly horrific background, that was a huge achievement.
I've got several other piggies through more minor GI stasis and total loss of appetite in the wake of operations or strong medication. It is always worth the struggle.

You can find a link to her gut stasis thread in our Digestive Problems guide, which also contains a chapter on caring for a guinea pig with GI stasis. The medication has been reviewed by a very experienced long term guinea pig keeping exotics nurse. I hope that the information and practical advice in it will help you!
Aim for at least 60 ml in 24 hours; every 2 hours in the day and then at least once or twice during the night, depending on how much you have got in. With a piggy not eating and not wanting to eat, it is a battle royale. Also offer as much water as she will take. You can find more tips in the guide.
Here is the link: Digestive Disorders: Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating

All the best for getting through this rougher than expected patch!
 
Don't give up hope if she still seems bright.
I had to be quite 'proactive' with Ruby after her bladder flush for well over a week before she really started eating fully on her own again.
But throughout she was bright and feisty - it just took a while for her to start eating on her own again so I really pushed the syringe feeding every few hours.
It was grueling at the time, but 3 years later I am thankful that I tried so hard as she is still with us and as feisty as ever.
 
Don't give up hope if she still seems bright.
I had to be quite 'proactive' with Ruby after her bladder flush for well over a week before she really started eating fully on her own again.
But throughout she was bright and feisty - it just took a while for her to start eating on her own again so I really pushed the syringe feeding every few hours.
It was grueling at the time, but 3 years later I am thankful that I tried so hard as she is still with us and as feisty as ever.


Myself and my boyfriend just finished giving her a feed and found this on the cover after I put her away. Vets again at 9:30 and I hope they hear moment now.
 

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Myself and my boyfriend just finished giving her a feed and found this on the cover after I put her away. Vets again at 9:30 and I hope they hear moment now.

Hi!

Those poos reflect the operation and the onset of the GI stasis. The GOOD news is that the gut has started working again but you need to wait out the gap in the production before the syringe feeing has kicked in. Be patient and hang in there!

Your girl should hopefully bounce back in the coming days and make a fairly quick recovery once things get seriously going again.
 
Hi!

Those poos reflect the operation and the onset of the GI stasis. The GOOD news is that the gut has started working again but you need to wait out the gap in the production before the syringe feeing has kicked in. Be patient and hang in there!

Your girl should hopefully bounce back in the coming days and make a fairly quick recovery once things get seriously going again.


I cried when I saw those little poops, never been so happy to see a piggie poop! The vet was surprised at hearing her guts moving which is great! Another day or two of syringe feeding on the cards and then we can take it a day at a time.

The vet did say to give her enough syringe feeding to keep her going but not enough to make her feel full. She is around 895g, how many ml should she need to keep her guts going but enough to make her feel hungry?

Thank you so much for all your help and advice, I thought she was a goner after yesterday but now I know I can help her get better.
She has started to get a raspy breathing but she is on antibiotics and the vet said that should clear it up. Said that might be because during the operation she was laying on her back.
 
I cried when I saw those little poops, never been so happy to see a piggie poop! The vet was surprised at hearing her guts moving which is great! Another day or two of syringe feeding on the cards and then we can take it a day at a time.

The vet did say to give her enough syringe feeding to keep her going but not enough to make her feel full. She is around 895g, how many ml should she need to keep her guts going but enough to make her feel hungry?

Thank you so much for all your help and advice, I thought she was a goner after yesterday but now I know I can help her get better.
She has started to get a raspy breathing but she is on antibiotics and the vet said that should clear it up. Said that might be because during the operation she was laying on her back.

Aim for 60-90ml in 24 hours (using the scales to ideally stabilise the weight). with a piggy off their food, you feed 5-10 ml every 2 hours during the day and once or twice during the day - that gives your piggy enough energy but without it coming in a big lump. 40-60ml is the crisis minimum.
Once you can get more like 10-15 ml into her with every sitting you can reduce the number of feeding sessions, but ideally also start aiming towards 90ml. If the appetite is starting to come up well, you can offer the top up syringe feed in a bowl 2-3 times a day. It is a gradual recovery process, so you have to micro-manage with the help of your scales and how lively your piggy is.
A younger adult piggy eats about the equivalent of 120 ml in a day, so our recommendation are already taking care of your vet's concerns. ;)
 
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