Bisolvon Side Effects etc

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I am posting here so as not to Pignap Sandra's thread :)

I have always used Bisolvon for my pigs that have mucus on the chest etc (not for minor stuff) and have found it effective. Previously I used Sudafed as a decongestant but then became a label reader and now keep it for emergencies only :)

Anyway, Maryh prompted me to write this post when she posted that her boar had a 'severe reaction to it'. The only contraindications I can find are:

Not for use in cows producing milk for human consumption.
Dispose of any unused product and empty containers in accordance with guidance from your local waste regulation authority. Avoid contact with skin and eyes. In case of accidental eye contact, flush the affected eye with copious amounts of clean running water. Wash hands and exposed skin after administering the product.

As I use this product a lot for rescue pigs especially I would like to know the symptoms any one that has experienced a pig with reactions to it and how they knew it was the Bisolvon. Thanks in advance, I am going to discuss it with my vet but first hand experience is best :)

I assume that the drugs company have been informed Mary (via your vet?), I'm a believer in feedback!
Thanks in advace :)
 
Trade I think, the name on the packet :) Sounds like wallpaper paste to me ;D
 
;D it doesnt look as scary as it sounds Ron, its only powder in a little sachet! Ralfie had this and it helped him shift the mucus, no bad reaction. It was prescribed for a URI after 2weeks on baytril then 1 week on septrin so was really needed and it worked along with a bit of physio :) id like to know the side effects too x
 
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Thanks Karen O0

Would be good to know a bit more about this drug. I haven't had to use it yet, but I like to know all the ins and outs just in case. Glad to hear it helped little Ralfie :smitten:
 
I've used it with no bad effects at all. :-\ It's very hard to get the dosage right though.
 
I agree there pelicano, the vets just told me a 'tiny pinch in water and syringe it' not really an exact dose so i just went for a tiny bit, just incase he did have a reaction.
 
I have spoken to my vet now and she knows nothing of any reactions in pigs. She would be very interested to hear about the reaction experienced by Mary's pig :) I told her about the Sudafed and she was suprised that it had an effect that quick ::) Mary we would appreciate it if you could enlighten us please, being a medical person yourself I'm sure you understand the importance of reactions to drugs :)
Thanks in advance :)
 
I'd personally never use Sudafed, as I can't take it myself (makes my heart race and keeps me awake, even if I take it in the morning! In fact makes me look rather like this: :o), so I wouldn't want to use it on piggies.
 
I do not use anything with sweeteners,parabens,sles etc.Sudafed does contain sucrose and colourant,but years ago I had a boar with "asthma" type allergy and I could not pin down what he was allergig to.Sometimes he would go weeks,even months without an attack.I had tried Bisolv0n on him but it did not work.Sudafed, 0.3ml stat, did work.It eased the symptoms within half an hour. I came home one day and found him gasping and limp.Within half an hour of the Sudafed he was back to normal.Strangely after that the attacks got less and less and then stopped.He lived to old age with no more health problems.This was a long time ago and I did not have a good vet. I have only used the Sudafed 3 or 4 times since then as I have not since had a piggy with breathing problems caused by allergy.It is not a drug I would take myself and I would only use it on a piggy in an emergency.

The Bisolvon episode was also years ago before I had a good vet.I had used it on a few previous occasions with no problem. I am sure the piggy in question did have a reaction to the Bisolven because he became unwell so quickly and there was nothing else that he could have ingested to cause this,.I did check his pen thoroughly for aany suspect substance.I have heard of other people using Bisolvon with no problems.Like people,piggies can be allergic to things which do not affect other pigs.I myself am VERY allergic to aspirin,but millions of people can take aspirin with no ill affect.
 
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Bisolvon is the trade name,the generic name is bromhexidine hydrochloride.It is contra indicated in humans for people who have kidney disease,so I would be reluctant to give it to a gp anyway as I beleive that the gp renal system is their weak point as it were. Having said that,I suppose in a small dose short term,it would be o.k.

Bisolvon is available in liquid form that does not contain sugar.It is made by Boeringer Ingleham.
 
If the product you use advises to wash hands Yes,but it is the same drug,I think.The powder is the vetinary form.Maybe it is a different strength.

If the product you use advises washing hands and any exposed skin after use,I would not touch it with a barge pole.It is obviously quite toxic.I note that you say the powder you use says that it should not be given to milk yeilding cows,this makes me wonder if the Bisolvon for human use and the vetinary one is a different drug.I will have to investigate this.

I did not report the allergy episode because this was over 10 years ago and I did not have a vet who was the least bit interested piggies.

I did report it to the drug company but they did not seem very bothered,after all,it was just a guina pig.
 
Thanks for that Mary. I wonder why they say to wash hands unless its a general hygiene thing?

All drugs are scary if you read the contraindications, I am a bit puzzled as to why you 'won't touch this with a bargepole' yet will use Metacam? The side effects for that are diarrhoea, and bleeding and there have been fatalities in dogs. Not to mention kidney probs. Surely there is a risk with everything? :) Given in the right dose and for the right length of time these risks are minimised?

You say it is toxic, in what way?
 
The mouse had a really severe respiratory infection, and with the help of 2 different antibiotics, Metacam and Bisolvon, has returned from what seemed like the brink of death (yippee!) :) So I'm a huge fan of Bisolvon. It was incredibly difficult to dose a mouse, but I just used an absolute minute amount.
 
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