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Dental Additional incisor from front jaw

Piggywiggywoo

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Hi, my 5 1/2 year old intact boar is having some weird tooth problems. Vet says that the molars look okay and the brown at the base of his bottom incisor is fur. Ozzy confirmed this himself as he has cleaned off his teeth and has lovely pink gums.
The real problem is that his bottom left incisor snapped, then his right was trimmed down by vet. This then grew back twisted and snapped. It grew back twisted with a black line, or furrow, in the front of this tooth. It snapped. It's grown back stronger and is now white. But with each break there was a bulb of yellow white tooth attached like a balcony to this incisor. Underneath was the hollow furrow which stopped before the gum and root line.
All this has been since August 2018 when Ozzy's arch nemesis, but room buddy, died. Today, I've seen that the right incisor is still twisted a little and doesn't sit flush against the left. Surprisingly, a third incisor is now growing from below the gum line and arching up separate to the right incisor. It looks thin and sharp but otherwise healthy. Am supplementing the diet with liquid feed and Ozzy is maintaining weight at 1354g. He is cleared of impaction every day and will not take calcium tablets or B complex liquid without it turning into WWE Smackdown. He is gnawing and eating. I suspect he deliberately tried to snap the bad tooth off as he gnaws on wood, pulls on clothing like a dog pulling against you with a rope toy. He munches through fresh hay no problem and is eating pellets. He hasn't injured himself as far as I recall. He can nip no problem. Vet wants to put him under, but he was not good last time with the sedative and the vet is wary of dental work as she is not a specialist.
The first three photos are screenshots of the video I (tried) to take of his teeth today. The last two are from a few weeks ago when the incisor was freshly snapped. The brown gum is his hair. The brown mouth is Recovery liquid feed. Would appreciate any advice z- fyi, he goes to the vets for check ups. She's not cavy savvy though so want to have as much info for her as possible. TIA. 😀
 

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Your boar's teeth problem sounds very strange,nbut hopefully furryfriends(TEAS) will be able to help. If you live at all in range of Northampton, the Cat and Rabbit Clinic is brilliant with guinea pigs, and vet Simon Maddock is an expert at conscious dentals on piggies.
Hope you can find out what's going on soon!
 
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Your boar's teeth problem sounds very strange,nbut hopefully furryfriends(TEAS) will be able to help. If you live at all in range of Northampton, the Cat and Rabbit Clinic is brilliant with guinea pigs, and vet Simon Maddock is an expert at conscious dentals on piggies.
Hope you can find out what's going on soon!

Thank you. I live in Wales so nowhere near. But at this rate it might be a holiday up there with a piggy riding shotgun and squeaking at the sat nav!
 
Can I just say that your comment about WWE Smackdown made me laugh! :lol!:

Anyway, I've got a dental piggie as well and hopefully you can manage to get some proper treatment for your Ozzy. I can recommend going to Cat & Rabbit in Northampton to see Simon Maddock. We live in North Wales but we travel that far just for our dental piggies. He is the best!
 
Can I just say that your comment about WWE Smackdown made me laugh! :lol!:

Anyway, I've got a dental piggie as well and hopefully you can manage to get some proper treatment for your Ozzy. I can recommend going to Cat & Rabbit in Northampton to see Simon Maddock. We live in North Wales but we travel that far just for our dental piggies. He is the best!

Right, I do too. How long does it take you? I'm on the coast rather than inland, so A5/A55 as much as possible. Think it might have to be a trip during the Christmas hols if they're open. Considering Ozzy slimmed from 1500g to 1300+g he would still give The Rock a run for his money! Pet insurance? Owner/human slave insurance more likely! 😁 (PS, he slimmed in part due to a restriction on veggies in the evening to encourage more hay munching and he lost about 100g due to the initial teeth breaking and Spike dying).
 
This is Cat & Rabbit opening times during the holidays.

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We take the A55 to M56 and then M6 to Stoke. But hubby most of the time try to avoid Birmingham and go via Leicester to M1. Our travel is usually around 4hrs (more or less) each way, that's including all the services stops.
 
This is Cat & Rabbit opening times during the holidays.

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We take the A55 to M56 and then M6 to Stoke. But hubby most of the time try to avoid Birmingham and go via Leicester to M1. Our travel is usually around 4hrs (more or less) each way, that's including all the services stops.

Diolch. That's handy. Think I'll give them a ring tomorrow as a precaution. Do you know what their fees are like?
 
We usually pay around £45 for the dental. Checkup is around £35 I think (sorry I can't remember haha). But after initial treatment, we usually pay just the dental and cost of medication if needed. Simon sees around 100 or so guinea pigs in a week so you would definitely be assured of his knowledge especially with dental. Sometimes we meet people coming from as far as Scotland!
 
If you can get to Northampton it is very much worth it. We have had a forum member travel up from Devon I think before and stay overnight just to have Simon see their piggy. It's certainly not a tooth issue I have come across before so a knowledgeable vet would be extremely useful
 
I can thoroughly recommend Simon, we travel from deepest Cornwall with our Ted, the vets down here are clueless with regard to piggies teeth. Definitely worth the drive for a conscious dental and very reasonably priced too. Good luck with your boys nashers x
 
I can thoroughly recommend Simon, we travel from deepest Cornwall with our Ted, the vets down here are clueless with regard to piggies teeth. Definitely worth the drive for a conscious dental and very reasonably priced too. Good luck with your boys nashers x

Ahhh Cornwall. Close enough.... It's all down south to me lol
 
Well wish it was closer as it’s a 370 miles drive each way and an overnight stay in Northampton to visit Simon lol x we originally come from North Yorkshire which would have been a lot easier but hay we’ve just got back from the beach so can’t complain x
 
I've taken Oscar today to see a vet who is an exotics specialist - she works with zoo animals and loves small furries. She also works with a pet rescue, so works with domestic exotics too. Am so chuffed as she's not far from home.
She's had a look at Ozzy's mouth and wants to monitor the situation. The previously damaged incisor is healthy and sitting well against its neighbour. The twist is no longer there. The third incisor at the front is a tooth fragment growth from the original damage. Luckily that is closed off round the gum area and has a little give but shows no signs of moving. Oz showed no signs of discomfort and he is a squealer when he's in pain.
Vet said it's better to leave it work its way out naturally so that there is minimal damage to the jaw. The gums and incisors are healthy and show no sign of infection despite some hair impaction around the base of the teeth. According to her, Ozzy's incisors are a little on the long side but he has always had longish teeth. I took his carrot leftovers for her to analyse the bite furrows and spacing - both are good. Healthy coat, weight and muscle tone. She's happy with the rest of him but wants to keep an eye on his teeth.
If worst comes to the worst, he'll be put under, xrayed, and the fragment and possibly incisors will be removed depending on the results. If the previously bad incisor needs removal she says it's better to remove its neighbour too otherwise it would be weakened and snap.
Will wait and see as have heard that the remaining incisor grows wider into the space and takes on the thickness of the other one. Otherwise the removal of the lower incisors would necessitate the trimming of the upper incisors which would need to be done regularly. Fingers crossed he'll sort himself out.
Just as an FYI, she was also adamant that teeth clipping she never be done (we were talking about something I'd seen on the net) as Ozzy previously has had trimming done by a vet under diazepam sedation with a dremmel drill (the small circular cutter) which offers a clean cut. Clipping can splinter the teeth deeper in the jaw as the vibrations from the force of the clipping are bad enough going through the hand, never mind what the pig experiences reverberating down the tooth to the jaw and head. Hope this helps others. 😊
 
Thank you to everyone who has recommended Simon - he will be the next step if necessary. Oscar and I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2019.
 
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